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Chinese Carbon MTB => 29er => Topic started by: 325racer on July 18, 2014, 05:52:51 PM
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Just had Peter put together a quote for an 057 with rigid fork, wheels, bar, post and some other stuff. Looking at about $1500ish delivered.
Planning on 3k gloss weave, but planning to have some pinstriping done, so once I find out what kind of finish the pinstriper wants this might be going on order. Peter said 45 day for production on the frame if I want 3k gloss or matte.
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Peter said 45 day for production on the frame if I want 3k gloss or matte.
3k weave is my favorite as well, but I prob just opt for the UD matte before waiting the 45 days. That said, I'm impatient and 45 days really isn't that long, especially if you already have a bike that you're riding.
Where are you getting the pinstriping done? What color scheme? Def post pics of that.
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Haven't got the pinstriper fixed yet, but being in San Diego I have access to one of the best/original in the world in the name of Lyle Fisk. I sent him an email to start planning, if not, there are plenty of others, being in the heart of Hot Rod/Low Rider country.
As for color and scheme, I'm thinking some red and gold or silver and another color, for actual work, I figured Id mostly leave that to them as the artists.
45 days wont be a big deal, as it will probably be another 3 months after that until I purchase the groupo. Looking at the new 1x11 XTR. This will probably end up the most expensive Chiner bike around.
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Did you look into the IP-256SL? The price difference is not much. Personally, I like the looks of the 256 a bit more as well ( looks more svelte/light/quick to me). I would think it would raise you up much more than 100-200 dollars. And since you said it's already going to be expensive.
Either way, I think pin striping will be awesome. I was going to do that, but the local guy who is incredible wanted between $500 & $1000 to put some paint on the frame and them pin it! He's good, but this bike isn't worth that!
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Looked at the 256, I don't particularly like the look of the top of the rear triangle, that and I weigh 220 and dont expect to ever be below 200, Id rather have a little more strength in the frame. Also don't like the trap door thing.
With the number of stripers down here Im sure I can find one do it much less than that, so far Im just starting to inquire, but thats the plan.
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The fact that its a rigid fork my make it difficult to claim the illustrious title of most expensive chiner. Either way, custom pinstriping and xtr 1x11 sounds like a ridiculously sweet ride. Can't wait to see it.
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True, without a suspension fork it will be less than some, however, i plan to add on eventually. Its either rigid fork and xtr to start or suspension for and a hobbled together 1x10 groupo.
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If that's the case, then I say definitely take the route you're planning on, rigid fork and xtr, for sure. May even turn out that you like the rigid fork, not mention the pinstriping can be carried over onto the rigid fork and make a more complete looking bike. So at least for pictures - you need the rigid fork ;D
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My bike cost me about £1850 ($3150). I've swapped some parts out (got rid of the dropper, added carbon bars) so it's probably only about $3000 now. I'm sure you'd have no trouble beating that though!
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The good thing about it, is even at $3k plus, its easily have what it would be for a name brand bike speced the same. Frames alone are $1000-1500 more, and same for the carbon wheels, bars, etc.
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So Peter emailed and said he has the frame I want available within a week. Ugggg, I wasn't planning to spend the money for another month.
On the plus side, I've been in contact with the pinstriper and he says anyplace from $200-450 depending on colors, complexity, etc. So paint could end up as much as the frame itself, but would be Amazingly Epic.
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A beautiful paint job would be a nice thing, however, with paint costing as much as the frame I would think twice about spending the money on that. If you want some basic paint, like you have seen people post, the cost is around $75. Not bad considering the amount of work that goes into the paint process. I did spend the money for basic paint on both my frames as I like to have something a little unique.
Just remember, it is a mountain bike, and it will get nicked, chipped and scratched if you use the bike for it's intended purpose. My advice would be to do what makes you happy but a bike with a painted frame will not ride any different.
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Order being placed tonight, just doing a deposit, with remaining payment later in August, when my Bonus check arrives. Ordering pretty much everything except the component group. Frame, fork, wheels, 700mm bars, 400mm seatpost. Adds up fast, Im looking at $1600.
Figure after my payment, etc, Ill be expecting delivery mid September.
It will go to painter, then groupo will be ordered probably in time for Christmas build.
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Boss just informed me Bonuses should hit next week and they are better than expected. So my full payment may happen sooner. I was planning on next bonus for components, but might be able to order them with this bonus. Might move completion to late Agust instead of Christmas!!!!
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Two ore days till my bonus is supposed to hit, then I can complete my order. Its way better than expected so I should be able to order the drivetrain, then wait for it to get to vendors for shipment. Going with new XTR 1x11....
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I like the SRAM XX1 better than what Shimano is offering, here are 10 reason why:
1) Greater range, 10-42 rather than 11-40. More top and bottom end on the SRAM cassette.
2) XX1 will be about $500 cheaper on the street price.
3) XX1 has been out for over a year and is proven to work well.
4) XX1 uses X-sync which locks the chain on the chain ring eliminating the need for any kind of a chain guide.
5) XX1 is a dedicated 11-speed group, XTR tries to be both a 1x, 2x, or 3x setup.
6) I have not confirmed but it appears XTR cranks need to be removed to change the chainring(s).
7) XX1 rear derailleur path is a true horizontal parallelogram to provide quick/reliable shifting.
8) XX1 has a Gripshift option.
9) XX1 trigger shifter has an extremely short throw for both increasing and decreasing gear changes, provides very fast shifting.
10) XX1 cranks are offered in 2 Q-factors.
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Interesting on the XTR m9000
Going to be interesting to hear your thoughts on it.
What made you go that way?
Last I looked, nobody has it for sale yet, lot of vendors showing it...I guess to build interest/preorders.
CD, an 11th might be that XX1 does 28 vs. 30 is the smallest on XTR.
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Good summary CD. Thank you. A 12th, SRAM will bend over backwards to serve the customer after the sale. Shimano not so much. I'm on SRAM X9 10 spd now but someday when my ship comes in XX1.
Andy. :)
I like the SRAM XX1 better than what Shimano is offering, here are 10 reason why:
1) Greater range, 10-42 rather than 11-40. More top and bottom end on the SRAM cassette.
2) XX1 will be about $500 cheaper on the street price.
3) XX1 has been out for over a year and is proven to work well.
4) XX1 uses X-sync which locks the chain on the chain ring eliminating the need for any kind of a chain guide.
5) XX1 is a dedicated 11-speed group, XTR tries to be both a 1x, 2x, or 3x setup.
6) I have not confirmed but it appears XTR cranks need to be removed to change the chainring(s).
7) XX1 rear derailleur path is a true horizontal parallelogram to provide quick/reliable shifting.
8) XX1 has a Gripshift option.
9) XX1 trigger shifter has an extremely short throw for both increasing and decreasing gear changes, provides very fast shifting.
10) XX1 cranks are offered in 2 Q-factors.
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I have Shimano on all my bikes dating back to my 92 Bridgestone, the only part that ever did me wrong was some bottom end clipless pedals. I have no doubt that it will work when delivered.. My original plan was to order groupset in November, but due to a better bonus, I can order the groupset now.
Chainreaction preorder pricing for XTR is similar to xx1.
I am taking a second look at XX1 and Gripshift to make a super clean cockpit. But XTR would keep all my bikes with familiar controls.
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I have just gone to XX1 with the Gripshift and am very pleased ! It took a few miles to get used to shifting up and down in the right direction. (Resulting in a clipped in fall at .5 mph going up a steep hill ;D), glad no one was around to see it ! ) but now i have about 400 miles on the bike it is sub-concious crisp and quick shifting.
Cockpit is as clean as it gets too !
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/60022025/20140810_105105.jpg)
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Sussex pardon my ignorance but what is that Inline box in your cables? Is that a twin-lock??
Thanks,
Andy. :)
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Sussex pardon my ignorance but what is that Inline box in your cables? Is that a twin-lock??
Thanks,
Andy. :)
Yep, Foxs splitter for dual remote. Not very pretty.......
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That reminds me, I need to post my Fox splitter for sale in the FS forum.
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Reconsidering. Might be an XX1 Gripshift setup. Ordered both cassette bodies from Peter, better safe than sorry..
Been a busy weekend. Since final/full payment went to Peter last night I will probably start a new official build thread with specs and pictures once parts start arriving.