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Title: 635 mm wide handlebar not wide enough?
Post by: Jake on August 02, 2014, 08:12:18 AM
I decided to flip the stem on my 256 and when I examined the the clamping area of the 700 mm wide handlebar I noticed some pressure dents.

I have to send in the handlebar and have to get an replacement asap and I found a good priced Easton 635 mm wide Easton EC90 SL Riser Bar..

I have a 620 mm wide HB on my 26 and the 700 mm seems to be an overkill but will 635 mm to narrow for a 29er?
Title: Re: 635 mm wide handlebar not wide enough?
Post by: carbonazza on August 02, 2014, 09:41:47 AM
I have a 660 and find it just fine.
If you are in doubt, you could take the 700.
Then if you find it too wide, cut it.
Title: Re: 635 mm wide handlebar not wide enough?
Post by: Sitar_Ned on August 02, 2014, 01:30:16 PM
I say that you should at least try wider.. Mine is 711mm wide and I love them. If I was buying a new bar, i wouldn't even consider going shorter. That said cock pit fit plays a major role in that decision.. tt lenght, stem length, etc.
Title: Re: 635 mm wide handlebar not wide enough?
Post by: brmeyer135 on August 02, 2014, 02:47:40 PM
Kinda up to your riding - tight tree action and a less wide bar would be apprapo.

Found this for ya:
The reasons we have been preaching about wide bars since 1999 are that they simply give you more stability, more leverage to fight sudden jerks to the side and more leverage for cornering. A quick baseline to start from is to do a push up and experiment with hand width and find out where you feel most stable and powerful. From this starting point go out a bit wider and start working your way in. What we are looking for is for your forearms to slope outward slightly from your hands to your elbows when you have lowered your chest in a “half push-up” position (see photo below). At the widest your forearms should go straight up to your elbows when in this position.
This width will give you the optimum amount of control. From this position you can absorb shock, keep the wheels on the ground over a small drop, resist twisting/jerking forces and power you way trough a corner by getting enough counter pressure leverage to give you the right lean angle. - See more at: http://betterride.net/blog/2014/can-mountain-bike-handlebars-wide/#sthash.gaPr04By.dpuf
Title: Re: 635 mm wide handlebar not wide enough?
Post by: Carbon_Dude on August 03, 2014, 08:35:53 AM
I'm at 680mm for both my Chiners, I like the width because it is wide enough but still allows me to maneuver around the tight single track that I ride.  I think I could get away with 700mm but that would be about as wide as I could go.
Title: Re: 635 mm wide handlebar not wide enough?
Post by: Jake on August 04, 2014, 10:17:43 AM
I just ordered an Easton Haven handlebar:
http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/nl/en/easton-haven-carbon-riser-bar-2014/rp-prod119916 (http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/nl/en/easton-haven-carbon-riser-bar-2014/rp-prod119916)

Now I need to get a light stem without weight restrictions about 70 mm and 6-10 degrees, any sugestions?
Title: Re: 635 mm wide handlebar not wide enough?
Post by: Carbon_Dude on August 04, 2014, 05:22:55 PM
I just ordered an Easton Haven handlebar:
http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/nl/en/easton-haven-carbon-riser-bar-2014/rp-prod119916 (http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/nl/en/easton-haven-carbon-riser-bar-2014/rp-prod119916)

Now I need to get a light stem without weight restrictions about 70 mm and 6-10 degrees, any sugestions?

Oh, those bars are a little pricey compared to the ones I got from XMiplay, but they are nice quality.
Title: Re: 635 mm wide handlebar not wide enough?
Post by: RS VR6 on August 04, 2014, 11:10:02 PM
90 bucks for Haven bars.
http://www.jensonusa.com/Mountain-Bike-Handlebars/Easton-Haven-Carbon-Handlebar-2013?SSAID=143118
Title: Re: 635 mm wide handlebar not wide enough?
Post by: carbonazza on August 05, 2014, 03:17:08 AM
Do not forget that in Europe we have the pleasure to have a ~20% VAT + shipping costs + importation costs added to each purchase.
This makes more or less the price you see on chain reaction, or other euro shops.

However for bigger parts, due to the current weak dollar against the EUR, it may make sense.
For instance my lefty fork, was 200 EUR in total cheaper from the US, than bike24.com in Germany.


Oh, those bars are a little pricey compared to the ones I got from XMiplay, but they are nice quality.
Title: Re: 635 mm wide handlebar not wide enough?
Post by: Jake on August 05, 2014, 03:24:44 AM
We europeans always pay more...

What about a Syntace F109 60 mm stem for my Easton Haven handlebar?
Title: Re: 635 mm wide handlebar not wide enough?
Post by: brmeyer135 on August 05, 2014, 06:57:19 AM
Here is light:  http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hylix-Full-Carbon-stem-31-8mm-93g-for-Road-MTB-Super-Light-with-Ti-bolts/121368763852?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D23490%26meid%3D8818142830762393295%26pid%3D100005%26prg%3D10073%26rk%3D6%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D121399414769&rt=nc

Here is light and cheap(same brand):  http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hylix-Super-Ultra-Light-stem-Road-Mountain-bike-31-8mm-1-1-8-Ti-Bolts-99g-/121399414769?pt=US_Stems&hash=item1c43f80ff1

Depending on your riding...XC these should be fine...you might check out the offerings from iPlay
Title: Re: 635 mm wide handlebar not wide enough?
Post by: Jake on August 24, 2014, 03:29:51 AM
I have been using Easton carbon handlebars for a long time now and and I trust them but I never used a carbon stem...
Somehow aluminium seems to be a better choice for stems are the threads in aluminium inserts or straight in the carbon?

I am very happy with my Easton Haven Carbon Riser Bar, I went from 620 to 711 mm and it doesn't feel to wide at all.
There is just one narrow passage in my local trails that is more difficult with the wider bars.

Now I am looking for 90 mm  17 degree stem to be able to experiment with handlebar height.
I was a bit to radical cutting my fork to get rid of all the spacers.....
Title: Re: 635 mm wide handlebar not wide enough?
Post by: outriding9800 on August 24, 2014, 08:37:30 AM
I have a easton ec70 and just noticed pressure dents also.. time to get a new bar..

as far as the width goes i never go over the width of my shoulders.. i personally like really narrow bars..

Title: Re: 635 mm wide handlebar not wide enough?
Post by: Carbon_Dude on August 24, 2014, 09:05:46 AM
I have a set of carbon flat bars from XMIplay I would be willing to sell for $40 incl shipping.  Used only for about 1 week, they are in new condition.  I will post them in the FS forum later today.

My carbon riser bars are 680mm wide and for me they are a good width.  I could be okay with up to about 700mm wide based on my size and the trails I ride.  It's all personal preference.
Title: Re: 635 mm wide handlebar not wide enough?
Post by: outriding9800 on August 25, 2014, 08:09:33 AM
I would be interested the bar.




I have a set of carbon flat bars from XMIplay I would be willing to sell for $40 incl shipping.  Used only for about 1 week, they are in new condition.  I will post them in the FS forum later today.

My carbon riser bars are 680mm wide and for me they are a good width.  I could be okay with up to about 700mm wide based on my size and the trails I ride.  It's all personal preference.
Title: Re: 635 mm wide handlebar not wide enough?
Post by: adym on September 18, 2014, 09:57:53 AM
Buy a wide bar, before you put anything on it close your eyes and place your hands on the bar, see how far/wide they are, align your cockpit to this placement - move the grips in a bit and have bar over hanging if necessary. Try the bike out on a couple of rides, then cut the bar.
Title: Re: 635 mm wide handlebar not wide enough?
Post by: snipe on October 10, 2014, 08:36:55 PM
I bought a couple of Gravity 720 carbon bars from a friend that gets a lot of product to review for a website he runs.  He said they were good for a girls bike.  I'm okay with that.  But a lot of guys here are running Chromag 780s since thats the macho thing to do.  My ER doc friend says he has noticed an up tick in the number of broken little fingers.  That would also explain the growing number of barkless sections, about handlebar height, on the local trees.  I will stick with my 720s and keep my little fingers intact. 

I also have bought light carbon 700s off ebay along with carbon/metal stems and run them hard on my nomad...no problems.  I guess it only takes one failure.  I would assume the offerings from iplay and the like would be one step better and I wouldn't have any reservations with them.  I also bought several road bars from ebay which are obvious knockoffs but they as well have been great performance and value.
Title: Re: 635 mm wide handlebar not wide enough?
Post by: cmh on November 04, 2014, 05:54:22 AM
I bought a couple of Gravity 720 carbon bars from a friend that gets a lot of product to review for a website he runs.  He said they were good for a girls bike.  I'm okay with that.  But a lot of guys here are running Chromag 780s since thats the macho thing to do.  My ER doc friend says he has noticed an up tick in the number of broken little fingers.  That would also explain the growing number of barkless sections, about handlebar height, on the local trees.  I will stick with my 720s and keep my little fingers intact. 

This made me laugh, thanks. :D "that's the macho thing to do" - used to be running bars as narrow as possible was the macho thing to do.

I've got no issue with the trend towards wider bars except that it's a trend. Works for some folks, not for others. My wife is 5'3" and her latest bike came with 700mm bars, maybe wider, I forget. Swapped those to the 580s she's been running for years.

I wonder how many pinkies got hurt for this? http://instagram.com/p/tflnsIAyvx (http://instagram.com/p/tflnsIAyvx)