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Other Resources => Vendor Discussion & Reviews => Topic started by: Carbon_Dude on May 03, 2014, 07:27:24 AM
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Thought I would put together a list of vendors that sell carbon frames, wheels, and other parts. Take note that many of there Chinese companies are trading companies that sell some of the same products under different names.
http://www.XmCarbonSpeed.com/
http://www.xmiplay.com (http://www.xmiplay.com)
www.carbonal.cn (http://www.carbonal.cn)
www.light-bicycle.com (http://www.light-bicycle.com)
www.flyxii.com (http://www.flyxii.com)
www.carbonality.com (http://www.carbonality.com)
www.hongfu-bikes.com (http://www.hongfu-bikes.com)
www.dengfubikes.com (http://www.dengfubikes.com)
http://carbonbicycle.cc
www.carbonbike.com
http://www.ltbikes.com
http://www.gotobike.com.cn
http://www.yoeleo.com/
www.honsenbikes.com (http://honsenbikes.com/products.asp)
http://www.nextie-bike.com/
http://www.asiancyclexpress.com
http://www.x-goods.com/
http://www.carbonbicycle.cc
https://www.lightcarbon.com/
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http://carbonbicycle.cc
www.carbonbike.com
http://www.ltbikes.com
http://www.gotobike.com.cn
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Thanks, I added your to the top of the list. As others add to this thread I will keep the list updated.
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Here's another: http://www.yoeleo.com/
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And another: http://honsenbikes.com/products.asp
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May I also suggest http://www.nextie-bike.com/ (http://www.nextie-bike.com/)
I have ordered a pair of their 90mm fat bike rims, and a pair of the ubiquitous 35mm hookless 29er rims from them and been very happy with each purchase.
I have dealt with Brian each time and found him easy to communicate with, and very responsive.
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may i suggest the china shop ,http://www.asiancyclexpress.com
the sell is helpful ,they can solve my problem quickly.
i have order the wheelset ,and do the special design for myself, it is wonderful.
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may i suggest the china shop ,http://www.asiancyclexpress.com
the sell is helpful ,they can solve my problem quickly.
i have order the wheelset ,and do the special design for myself, it is wonderful.
Sure.. Thanks for adding to the list.
If you work for or are affiliated with asian cycle express, then I'd encourage you to make that known. No reason to be undercover. If not, and you were simply adding to the list.. that's fine too.
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Thanks Good Job!
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You have identified that many of the companies are traders, rather than the real OEMs.
Are we able to indicate which are the OEM?
Cheers
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You have identified that many of the companies are traders, rather than the real OEMs.
Are we able to indicate which are the OEM?
Cheers
That's a very good idea, David. It's an important distinction to make imo, and we certainly need a way of identifying one from the other.
Perhaps we can simply put a star next to the OEMs, but first we'll obviously need to identify them. I'm fairly certain Iplay is OEM, but besides that I'm not all too certain. We'll see if we can get some info on who's who and just implement the star system as we go. I'll hold off on making any changes until we've confirmed from the manufacturers. Obviously, this doesn't help you all too much right now, and it'll probably take some time, but hopefully we can help to better make that distinction in the future..
Thanks for the idea!
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Perhaps we can simply put a star next to the OEMs, but first we'll obviously need to identify them. I'm fairly certain Iplay is OEM, but besides that I'm not all too certain. We'll see if we can get some info on who's who and just implement the star system as we go. I'll hold off on making any changes until we've confirmed from the manufacturers. Obviously, this doesn't help you all too much right now, and it'll probably take some time, but hopefully we can help to better make that distinction in the future..
My N+1 is to be a 29er dually. I have the groupset, fork and rear shock now received from Chainreactioncycls.com
I was leaning towards Yoeleo as it'll be my third frame from them, and their prices seem to be quite good, and their website and YouTube are professional -- but before I press "BUY", I just want to see if there is a competitive option..
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So I emailed Peter of Iplay hoping to get some clarity on who manufacturers what, and this is the reply I received:
Actually, Iplay, Hongfu, Dengfu, Miracle sell almost same frames, but we have some private mould frames separately.
We all companies own the factory together. But some other factories copy our frames and sell at much cheaper price, some facttories make frames with glass fiber with carbon fiber together and they offer only 6 months warranty.
Best Regards,
Peter
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Actually, Iplay, Hongfu, Dengfu, Miracle sell almost same frames, but we have some private mould frames separately.
We all companies own the factory together. But some other factories copy our frames and sell at much cheaper price, some facttories make frames with glass fiber with carbon fiber together and they offer only 6 months warranty.
Glass fibre!!! What?? Anyone identify who is using glass, not carbon?
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I bought my frame from www.x-goods.com (which seems to be the same as www.flyxii.com). Headset included. Chatting over skype I got a 15dlls discount and they sent me 3 spare derailleur hangers for free (plus the one that came attached to the frame). Also, as I didn't want to run the brake hose internally, I asked for the hose things that attach to the frame and they also sent those for free. The shipment arrived in two weeks to the US.
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Yes, I believe X-goods is also Flyxii, also probably Abay-goods.
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davidriddel - what are you getting from yoeleo?
I went to the link listed above and they had nothing for MTB in any size - do you have to call on that
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sorry for the delay.
The correct link for Yoeleo is www.yoeleobike.com (http://www.yoeleobike.com)
To date, I have ordered, received and built:
- a 29er hardtail as a full rigid single speed (frame, forks, seat post, integrated handlebars, wheels, biddon cage)
- a 650B soft tail as a 1x10 for my daughter (frame, biddon cage)
- a 29er soft tail as a 1x10 (frame, seat post, integrated handlebars, biddon cage)
I have also ordered a 48cm cyclocross frame and seat post for my daughter.
To date, everything from Yoeleo has been great...
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thanks for contributing, David.
As for Yoeleo, I'm kinda confused. Both of these links work.. I assume they are the same company?
http://www.yoeleo.com/
http://www.yoeleobike.com/
Speaking from an internet marketing perspective, it's probably pretty smart to have two sites like that. Build two versions of your website, try different strategies on each one, and see which one does the best and repeat those strategies in the future. Then just keep getting the traffic and sales from both. Only thing is it creates a little bit of confusion for the consumer.
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When looking at the sights, www.yoeleobike.com has more items. www.yoeleo.com doesn't have any any carbon frames in any size 26, 27.5 or 29.
Yoeleobike.com is a nice website. However, when I went through Peter (when he was at XMIplay) his pricing was better.
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Yoeleobike.com is a nice website.
Agreed. This is probably the nicest website of all the Chinese carbon vendors thus far.
One thing though. I wonder why they have pics on their site of guys riding name brand bikes? Maybe I'm missing something but that doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me.
(http://i.imgur.com/2w4lJn3.png)
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Yoeleo is active on Facebook, and the marketing girl who does all of their YouTube videos is also just starting out on Strava.
I find that comms with Yoeleo via Facebook Messenger is very effective, sometimes with instant responses.
I note that by their website 'About Us' details, Yoeleo and Iplay are both in Xiamen--only a 25 min drive apart (according to Google Maps)
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Great job!!!
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New http://www.tandellcycling.com/
http://www.boostbicycle.com/
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Will also suggest to add www.yoeleobike.com (http://www.yoeleobike.com)
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Anyone familiar with http://www.workswellbikes.com ?
They have one of the only 29+ 148 Boost compatible frames out there, and it looks a lot like Trek's Stache
http://www.workswellbikes.com/web/view/161.html (courtesy of someone in another thread on here)
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Anyone familiar with http://www.workswellbikes.com ?
They have one of the only 29+ 148 Boost compatible frames out there, and it looks a lot like Trek's Stache
http://www.workswellbikes.com/web/view/161.html (courtesy of someone in another thread on here)
It looks like that frame has two spots for the rear dropouts - allowing for different chainstay lengths? Interesting. Might buy some extra space for big 29+ tires.
cmh
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http://www.icanbikes.com
What about Ican bikes? I'm debating about a wheelset from them.
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Not sure why you'd order from Icanbikes when Peter at XMcarbonspeed.com can get you the same thing or better for a lower cost.
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I note that by their website 'About Us' details, Yoeleo and Iplay are both in Xiamen--only a 25 min drive apart (according to Google Maps)
They are almost all in Xiamen or are sourcing from that area. Xiamen is like the carbon fiber capitol of China and maybe the world in terms of production houses. My coworker grew up in Xiamen and told me that one of it's major industries is carbon fiber sporting equipment manufacture (bikes, tennis racquets, fishing poles, etc)
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Not sure why you'd order from Icanbikes when Peter at XMcarbonspeed.com can get you the same thing or better for a lower cost.
I would if he was actually cheaper but he isn't. My LBS will build any rims i bring in with DT comp spokes and Hope hubs for $450ish. So if I'm in the $650 to $700 ballpark for Novatec hubs, I'm probably going to go for the local / Hope build.
That being said, I'm over analyzing this wheel purchase. Looking for something in the $300 to $400 range.
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Anybody hear anything or have experience with "Fasteam" or "Dashine Bikes" on eBay? I'm looking into the below frame for my son -
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ONLY-USD358-set-Bottom-bracket-and-Headset-carbon-fiber-mountain-bike-frame-/261735380130?tfrom=261529535228&tpos=top&ttype=price&talgo=undefined
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I recently purchased a new rim from Peter at XM Carbonspeed to replace the one I melted. The exchange was perfect, as always. Peter was responsive and friendly. He packaged the rim very well and it arrived in perfect shape. There is a reason I like to do business with him.
He's now working very hard to convince me to buy a CS-092 road bike frame. ;D As soon as I can figure out the size I want, and I can save the money, I will order!
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He's now working very hard to convince me to buy a CS-092 road bike frame. ;D As soon as I can figure out the size I want, and I can save the money, I will order!
I just orderded a CS-092 frame from Peter earlier this week. Guess I have to get a build thread started.
As always, dealing with Peter was a pleasure.
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I have purchased an IP-057 frame with Bert (xmiplay), then I sent the money already do 12 days and they did not respond more emails, also sent to Peter and he also does not answer, I'm thinking I lost my money.
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I have purchased an IP-057 frame with Bert (xmiplay), then I sent the money already do 12 days and they did not respond more emails, also sent to Peter and he also does not answer, I'm thinking I lost my money.
Don't worry! They've got Chinese National Day holiday and they are back on the 8th of October.
Bert and Peter are very reliable vendors. So, please be patient.
My experience is that Peter is replying faster than Bert, but they always reply.
And please don't put you exact the same posts twice on this forum. One is enough. :)
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Excuse me, you're right, a week's holiday, I did not know, Bert just sent my frame, thanks.
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Hello, first time poster. I'm looking to buy a set of 29er wheels from a supplier that is both reliable and offers competitive prices - besides good wheels of course.... Looking at Carbon Speed and Yoeleo they charge high shipping fees and potentially even PayPal charges. When comparing to Aliexpress sellers many of these have free shipping on prices that are lower than the two mentioned companies. Is there a quality difference that I'm not aware of or what justifies $150 dollars more on a similar wheelset?
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If you want to save yourself some grief, just order from XMcarbonspeed.com and pay a little extra. If you order from AliExpress, you won't know what level of quality the wheels will be and I can guarantee you the service will not be as good. You are already saving 60% when buying the carbon wheels direct, to me it's not work saving another 5% by choosing the cheapest Chinese vendor.
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Update: carbonality.com now change to a new website: www.carbonalbike.com
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The new website is a bit slow but has a clean look.
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Hi, what about this one. Has anyone bought a carbon frame or fork @ http://www.orge-tech.com/
Thanks.
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Hi, what about this one. Has anyone bought a carbon frame or fork @ http://www.orge-tech.com/
Thanks.
Looks like all the same frames Peter at xmcarbonspeed.com sells. Nothing new to see there. For the most part, it looks like either Workswell or xmcarbonspeed.com has the majority of frames people are buying, no need to be taking chances on new trading companies that have no reputation.
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Has anyone purchased a complete bike from a vendor on the list? Im looking at miraclebikes for their TT and 29er FS. Thanks in advance.
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Nobody on this forum has posted they purchased a complete bike that I have seen. I think part of the reason people purchase a Chiner frame is to build the bike themselves.
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OK thanks for that. I may pull the trigger on a full XTR rig..we'll see. Thanks for the reply.
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Nextie now have a newer website.
www.nextie.net
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New here, great info.
I just bought a cross/gravel wheelset from Farsport. https://www.wheelsfar.com/ I'm waiting for shipment now.
Worked with Kyle Foo who came recommended and was easy to work with. Active on FB etc.
Got the 700x45mm (28mm wide, 19.5 inside width) with DT 350 disc hubs and tubeless ready. Paid $771 shipped. It's hard to find a deep carbon rim with wide inside width. I'll post back when I get them.
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There is an issue with the following web sites that are not available (existing?) anymore:
www.nextie-bike.com (http://www.nextie-bike.com)
CarbonAlity.com (http://CarbonAlity.com)
http://www.yoeleo.com/ (http://www.yoeleo.com/)
http://www.carbonbike.com/ (http://www.carbonbike.com/)
I think ICAN is missing.
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Hello
I live in France,sorry for my poor english langage.
Are all those vendors ok ?
The list is cool,but what about the quality of their frame ? What about the quality of their carbone parts ?
We can find on alibaba a lot of cabone parts,but never i will buy stem or other part that cost 12€....i don't give my life for 12€
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12€ for a bar is not that strange.
I bought some of them, and some more expensive ones at 20 or 25€.
They look all as sturdy, and none exploded in my friends hands or mine either :)
As usual when buying online.
Look at the feedback, and the volume of sales of the seller.
How their shop look like, and how are the other sales feedback and volumes.
Scan the comments, reject the stupid ones.
If near 5* with a high volume, you can generally trust the seller.
For the frames, maybe this is more complicated.
If you buy from Peter many times referenced here, you get a great quality.
And if a problem occurs that is clearly a warranty issue, you get a replacement frame( tried ! ).
I bought a frame from Workswell, their communication is quite bad but the frame is good.
And recently as well from Tideace who look very serious too.
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I know some brands are serious.
Deng fu
Hong fu
The others,i don't know.it seems yoeleo is serious too.
For the moment,i don't want frame, but i would like to upgrade my bike with stem handlebar seatpost and wheels in cabone.
I contacted dengfu and hongfu,they gave me total cost.
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Yishunbike seems to be good.
It is not in your list.
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There is plenty of good sellers around.
Remember, if you are the best at something, over a million people in China, there is a thousand like you ;)
If you stick with the well known in this forum, there is less risk for you.
But sure... try some less known ones, or even totally unknown.
As long as you share you experience, we'll all benefit from it.
PS: n'hésite pas à poser des question en PM si c'est plus facile :)
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How about www.lightcarbon.com, do they have representative here?
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How does one get in contact with the oem or better yet the designers and discuss with them making frames totally up to date geometry wise? They are getting better i guess with the P9. Most still have too of short top tubes/reach, steep HA and slack SA. It would also be awesome if they did rowdy hardtails like the Kona Honzo or Transition Vanqish. I see none of those which is disappointing.
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http://www.tantancycling.com also has some neat stuff. A few different frames.
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Thought I would put together a list of vendors that sell carbon frames, wheels, and other parts. Take note that many of there Chinese companies are trading companies that sell some of the same products under different names.
http://www.XmCarbonSpeed.com/
http://www.xmiplay.com (http://www.xmiplay.com)
www.carbonal.cn (http://www.carbonal.cn)
www.light-bicycle.com (http://www.light-bicycle.com)
www.flyxii.com (http://www.flyxii.com)
www.carbonality.com (http://www.carbonality.com)
www.hongfu-bikes.com (http://www.hongfu-bikes.com)
can you add my website www.oxivecarbon.com,appreciate~
www.dengfubikes.com (http://www.dengfubikes.com)
http://carbonbicycle.cc
www.carbonbike.com
http://www.ltbikes.com
http://www.gotobike.com.cn
http://www.yoeleo.com/
www.honsenbikes.com (http://honsenbikes.com/products.asp)
http://www.nextie-bike.com/
http://www.asiancyclexpress.com
http://www.x-goods.com/
http://www.carbonbicycle.cc
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TanTan is a great company. I've worked with them on quite a few frames now for almost a year now, great service and great quality. Never once a single issue! I happen to get agent pricing from them, if you want 10% off of what they quote you, PM me.
I've also ridden frames from BXT (poor experiences), Pro-Mance (great), ICAN (excellent aftersales service), and Tideace (also poor experience).
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Here is another: https://trifoxbike.com/
Their product quality is great. The price is also very competitive.
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Here is another: https://trifoxbike.com/
Their product quality is great. The price is also very competitive
Sorry... check other vendors, the prices are all but competitive ::)
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Sorry... check other vendors, the prices are all but competitive ::)
Please inform us?
You may be right about the price for the actual frames, but have you seen the shippingcost at producers like Hongfu* and Dengfu? It's almost 200 bucks to get the frame shippe to Europe. This manufactur take 60 bucks. On the other hand you have Velobuild, so go for Velobuild.
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Please inform us?
You may be right about the price for the actual frames, but have you seen the shippingcost at producers like Hongfu* and Dengfu? It's almost 200 bucks to get the frame shippe to Europe. This manufactur take 60 bucks. On the other hand you have Velobuild, so go for Velobuild.
Shipping has changed since October.
Ask them for the price now to be sure they stick to it.
For Europe, ask them to ship by WXY shipping company.
Recently $200 was for a box with 2 frames.
Prices stay kind of ok, although not as before, and they deliver in about 25-30 days instead of the usual 10-12.
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Shipping has changed since October.
Ask them for the price now to be sure they stick to it.
For Europe, ask them to ship by WXY shipping company.
Recently $200 was for a box with 2 frames.
Prices stay kind of ok, although not as before, and they deliver in about 25-30 days instead of the usual 10-12.
I read some some posts in a forum which were some years old about ICAN, some guy said that 220$ was insane for shipping, now that is the price for most.. Lol. Well it is what it is I guess but it turns me off. Yoeleo have a warehouse in Europe, I would go for them.
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Hi everybody,
I was investigating some frame geometry on the market and I relized that the same frame is sold on different website or by different aliexpress vendors.
For example:
TAN TAN FM899
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AIRWOLF YFM031
have the same geometry
I think Tan tan is the main producer while AirWolf is just a reseller. Do you agree?
Thanks for the help
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We all have this kind of question when starting. Nobody knows really.
Buy from a seller you know they will help you if something goes wrong.
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Maybe I missed it, but what's the overall feeling on MIRA (http://mira-factory.com/ (http://mira-factory.com/)) frames? Any issues with quality, after-sales, warranty, etc?