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Title: Carbon-Speed CS-RB01+RF01 review
Post by: Michael75455 on February 15, 2016, 12:00:33 AM
(http://raptortechnique.com/cycling/CS-RB01_RF01-1s.jpg)
Carbon-Speed CS-RB01+RF01 54cm BSA
http://www.xmcarbonspeed.com/Productinfo.asp?f=1391
(http://raptortechnique.com/cycling/CS-RB01_RF01s.jpg)
I ordered this frameset from Peter with a single color paint job. This only took six days to complete. Peter sent pictures just before the order was packed and shipped. One week later it arrived at my door. I was very pleased with every part of the order. Peter was quick with replies and had answers to everything I asked. And the frame and parts were very well packaged.
The frame was made very well. I did not see any flaws on the surface nor inside the head tube. Plus everything I bolted to the frame was perfectly aligned. Well of course not the derailleur hanger, that is normal procedure to have to do the alignment on these.
(http://raptortechnique.com/cycling/CS-RB01_RF01-5s.jpg)(http://raptortechnique.com/cycling/CS-RB01_RF01-3s.jpg)
The internal cable routing was well thought out. It was very easy to fish out the inner cable. Under the bottom bracket is an access panel that you remove. Inside there is a metal plate (on left in photo) that you pull out and this give a large opening for retrieving the cable. Other nice features on the frame include a metal plate to protect the frame in the event something gets jammed between the chainring and frame such as a rock or somehow the chain itself. Also there are bolt holes on the bottom that are in a position that appears to be for a cadence/wheel sensor. Another feature has to do with the cable stops in the frame. They are made to fit closely with the ferrules and angle the cables away from the frame so the cables do not rub through the paint or bare carbon fiber.
Painted 54cm Frame 1039g, fork 384g. Completed bike was 17.5 lbs (7.9kg)  and that is with a heavy saddle (Brooks C17 404g). Front and rear wheelset with tires/tubes/cassette totals 2630g.
I do not have a lot of money to buy the lightest components but that was not the objective of the build. The goal was to make my rides more enjoyable by taking away some of the harshness of the rough roads around here. I now have 200 miles on it and can say on each ride I am still amazed how well this frameset absorbs the rough chipseal roads. Many times I have found myself steering into the rough patches and the dips created by moles tunneling under the roads, just to feel how well the elastomer inserts and frame design work. The sharpness of the sudden jolts are completely removed. More of a bump then a painful impact.
I'm looking forward to many miles on this great bike. My goal this year is to do the circumference of the Moon (6,783.5 miles).
(http://raptortechnique.com/cycling/CS-RB01_RF01s.jpg)
Title: Re: Carbon-Speed CS-RB01+RF01 review
Post by: MTB2223 on February 15, 2016, 02:25:17 AM
Looks really great !
Title: Re: Carbon-Speed CS-RB01+RF01 review
Post by: cmh on February 15, 2016, 09:07:45 AM
Awesome build! Looks great!
Title: Re: Carbon-Speed CS-RB01+RF01 review
Post by: Michael75455 on February 16, 2016, 11:29:06 PM
Thanks, I was content with the bike I had until I test rode a used bike for a friend that was smoother then mine. That started me wondering what I was missing out with a better frame and now I am so glad I bought this one! BTW: What I was riding was a Nashbar model: nb-cr-m
Title: Re: Carbon-Speed CS-RB01+RF01 review
Post by: Carbon_Dude on February 18, 2016, 06:26:02 AM
Nice review.  Thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: Carbon-Speed CS-RB01+RF01 review
Post by: Disper on April 11, 2016, 01:01:04 PM
Hi Michael,

I'm interested on the CS frame. After this time of using it, would you say something additional to the review you posted?

I'm particularly interested on the function of the frame and fork inserts. Are these inserts really absorving the terrain issues? Are these inserts really rigid laterally when you push standing?

Many thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Carbon-Speed CS-RB01+RF01 review
Post by: Michael75455 on April 11, 2016, 06:17:17 PM
Currently I have a little over 1000 miles (1600km) and I am very happy with this frameset. Currently the best thing I have bought in this hobby :) Every time I come to a rough section of road I take it with speed instead of slowing down like I did with my previous frameset. It still amazes me just how much it absorbs. A few weeks ago my cousin and I swapped bikes for a few minutes so I could get some experience with the Di2 shifters that he has. When we swapped back he commented that mine was so smooth it was like riding in a car :) I have not had any problems with the frame. And you asked if the inserts are stiff laterally, well to me it feels like the power I put out all goes to the wheel. But I am not a pro level cyclist that can put out 1000+ watts. According to the power meter when I was riding my cousins bike, I was averaging 200 to 230 watts with a peak of a little over 500 watts.
Title: Re: Carbon-Speed CS-RB01+RF01 review
Post by: Disper on April 12, 2016, 03:43:05 PM
Hi Michael,

Many thanks for your kind answer. That was more or less what I wanted to know. Really there's no much more information on the web about this frame, your information is very valuable.

Enjoy your pretty bike. ;)
Title: Re: Carbon-Speed CS-RB01+RF01 review
Post by: FatbikeRacer on July 03, 2016, 08:36:18 PM
Thank for the great review. I am in the debating process of either a Ti Road or a Chiner. I am torn due to durability and would be interested in if you feel the bike has any softness or if it is not very stiff latterly.
Title: Re: Carbon-Speed CS-RB01+RF01 review
Post by: tripleDot on July 13, 2016, 02:55:34 AM
Hi Michael,

Interesting!  If you don't mind me asking, how much did the built cost you?
Title: Re: Carbon-Speed CS-RB01+RF01 review
Post by: Bob1010 on July 30, 2017, 06:51:02 AM
Hi,

Thanks for your review.  Can you tell me what is your tire size? As per you is there enough place for a 28mm tire?

Thanks

Bob
Title: Re: Carbon-Speed CS-RB01+RF01 review
Post by: tripleDot on July 30, 2017, 07:02:44 AM
Hi,

Thanks for your review.  Can you tell me what is your tire size? As per you is there enough place for a 28mm tire?

Thanks

Bob

Not sure he'll reply but I have the same frame too. I got 25mm tires on mine but had tried 28mm before, they do fit. 
Title: Re: Carbon-Speed CS-RB01+RF01 review
Post by: Bob1010 on July 30, 2017, 09:08:55 AM
Hi,

I wrote to xiamen carbon carbon speed goods and they told me:

''I am so sorry we don't sell this frame anymore.''

Where did you buy your frame or do you have any idea to fin one.

Thanks
Title: Re: Carbon-Speed CS-RB01+RF01 review
Post by: tripleDot on July 30, 2017, 10:51:28 AM
I got mine from Xiamen Carbon Speed... last year. I guess they discontinued it this year. Too bad, it's such a nice ride.
Title: Re: Carbon-Speed CS-RB01+RF01 review
Post by: Bob1010 on August 01, 2017, 08:52:52 AM
Hi again finally i receivec another from carbon speed:

''Actually we can still sell this frameset, but the lead time will be a little long, around 45-50 days after ordering,''

I will be anle to order one
Title: Re: Carbon-Speed CS-RB01+RF01 review
Post by: Bob1010 on August 01, 2017, 08:37:40 PM
Hi,

Thanks for your review.  Can you tell me what is your tire size? As per you is there enough place for a 28mm tire?

Thanks

Bob

Not sure he'll reply but I have the same frame too. I got 25mm tires on mine but had tried 28mm before, they do fit. 

They fit very tight or you have enough space to put any kind of 28mm?

Thanks
Title: Re: Carbon-Speed CS-RB01+RF01 review
Post by: tripleDot on August 02, 2017, 09:05:37 AM
I tried on Maxxis Detonator 700x28 before but can't remember if it was tight or still had room. All I remember was it fits. I'll take a picture of the tire clearance on the 25c tomorrow so you can gauge it.
Title: Re: Carbon-Speed CS-RB01+RF01 review
Post by: Bob1010 on August 04, 2017, 01:22:26 PM
I tried on Maxxis Detonator 700x28 before but can't remember if it was tight or still had room. All I remember was it fits. I'll take a picture of the tire clearance on the 25c tomorrow so you can gauge it.

Thank you very much I really appreciate your help.... :)
Title: Re: Carbon-Speed CS-RB01+RF01 review
Post by: tripleDot on August 05, 2017, 12:52:55 AM
Sorry for being late, I got busy and forgot about it. Here are the pics. Hopefully it helps.

Tire is Continental Gatorskin 700x25.

Rear tire (back view).
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v240/tripleDot/_20170805_132633.jpg)

Rear tire (behind seat post).
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v240/tripleDot/DSC_0281.jpg)

Fork (front view)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v240/tripleDot/DSC_0277.jpg)

Fork (back view).
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v240/tripleDot/DSC_0278.jpg)