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Chinese Carbon MTB => 29+ & 27+ => Topic started by: Carbon_Dude on May 09, 2016, 06:17:29 AM

Title: New CarbonSpeed 27.5+/29+ Frame (CS-496)
Post by: Carbon_Dude on May 09, 2016, 06:17:29 AM
Peter is calling this one the CS-496.  Looks nice.  If this were available a few weeks ago, I may have decided to build a bike with this frame instead of buying the Trek that I have.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v193/S2k_Dude/CS-496%2029.jpg)
Title: Re: New CarbonSpeed 27.5+/29+ Frame
Post by: Carbon_Dude on May 09, 2016, 06:44:44 AM
This frame looks to be either the same or similar to what LaMere Cycles is selling in the US.  http://www.lamerecycles.com/#!blank/io4sk (http://www.lamerecycles.com/#!blank/io4sk)  So here is a picture of what the frame might look like built up to a complete bike.

(https://static.wixstatic.com/media/d47f84_028f27dc6a2649d7b9ed7e9ef05defd1.jpg/v1/fill/w_1462,h_1190,al_c,q_85,usm_0.66_1.00_0.01/d47f84_028f27dc6a2649d7b9ed7e9ef05defd1.jpg)
Title: Re: New CarbonSpeed 27.5+/29+ Frame
Post by: Patrick C. on May 09, 2016, 07:19:32 AM
Does it take standard width hubs and BB?  Don't see anything on the pic, but the LaMere frame says "Boost" on it.

What I'd really like to know is where to get a copy of the book that it was scanned from:)
Title: Re: New CarbonSpeed 27.5+/29+ Frame
Post by: Carbon_Dude on May 09, 2016, 09:16:12 AM
I would guess it has Boost 148 dropouts.  Bottom bracket spec says BB92, I would like to see a BSA option but BB92 is the only one listed.
Title: Re: New CarbonSpeed 27.5+/29+ Frame
Post by: scottay on May 09, 2016, 09:41:25 AM
Thats a good one. Thanks for posting. Did you get a price?   
Title: Re: New CarbonSpeed 27.5+/29+ Frame
Post by: circoloco on May 10, 2016, 01:16:05 AM
Interesting. Where did you find it? It's not listed on the xmcarbonspeed page.
Do you know how it is different from the workswell frame, the one you were looking at before buying the stache?

[edit]: Workswell and CS compared in a nutshell:

What effects do these differences in geometry have in handling, especially the reduced stack?

Jens
Title: Re: New CarbonSpeed 27.5+/29+ Frame
Post by: Carbon_Dude on May 10, 2016, 06:17:46 AM
Peter sent me the picture of the frame to post on ChinerTown and I found the built up frame that seems to match on the Lamere cycles website.  I guess he will be updating his website soon to add the new frame.

Title: Re: New CarbonSpeed 27.5+/29+ Frame
Post by: circoloco on May 10, 2016, 07:00:49 AM
Thanks!
I read your thread about why you decided against the workswell built (and for the original Stache). For which reasons you would chose the CS Frame over the WW frame now?
The different stacks seem to depend on the kind of fork you install, the WW rigid fork is about 35mm lower than the suspension fork - which changes geo and angles, off course.
Title: Re: New CarbonSpeed 27.5+/29+ Frame
Post by: Carbon_Dude on May 10, 2016, 09:09:40 AM
I might choose this frame over the WW for the following reasons:

1). I like working with Peter at CarbonSpeed, he has good communication and works hard to get his customers a good quality product.

2). Peter has more options for custom paint.  WW could not even do a metallic color.

3). I like the styling of this frame a bit more, but that's only my personal preference.

As for the geometry, I think both frames are similar to the Stache so I would guess that they ride similarly.
Title: Re: New CarbonSpeed 27.5+/29+ Frame
Post by: jja on May 10, 2016, 11:14:59 AM
That's funny, Peter sent me a geometry picture that exactly matched ICAN's 17" size but seems to have said he can't get the 19".

This one does look interesting-- it claims a chainstay of 425mm, but the BB92 is a big negative.

(and I've already ordered a WW, hopefully it arrives, they've gone silent).
Title: Re: New CarbonSpeed 27.5+/29+ Frame
Post by: circoloco on May 11, 2016, 02:49:31 AM
I got quotes for WW frame, fork and wheels just yesterday, via alibaba. How did you order? Amazon, ebay, sobatobikes.com or alibaba?
I like the WW fork more, it just looks better, more hardcore, which fits the monster bike ;)
But CS has a few pros too: 32mm seatpost, fit for wider wheels, and Peter with his good reputation.

Btw. what's so bad about PF92?
Title: Re: New CarbonSpeed 27.5+/29+ Frame
Post by: jja on May 11, 2016, 10:17:53 AM
I got quotes for WW frame, fork and wheels just yesterday, via alibaba. How did you order? Amazon, ebay, sobatobikes.com or alibaba?
(Bit OT here, but they finally replied with a tracking number that shows it shipped a week later than promised.)

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I like the WW fork more, it just looks better, more hardcore, which fits the monster bike ;)
But CS has a few pros too: 32mm seatpost, fit for wider wheels, and Peter with his good reputation.

Agreed with all that. I tend to be in-between sizes and this "CS" 19" frame is closer to me than the ICAN but the WW seems to be even better for me.

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Btw. what's so bad about PF92?
Main thing for me right now is no EBB available for singelspeeding. But if I were doing gears, I'd prefer BSA threaded or the bigger bearings of BB30/PF30. (Hopefully T46 catches on though...)
Title: Re: New CarbonSpeed 27.5+/29+ Frame
Post by: MVinter on June 16, 2016, 03:47:49 AM
I´m wondering if I should buy this frame and use different wheelsizes front and rear (27.5+ rear and 29+ in rigid fork). What do you think?
Title: Re: New CarbonSpeed 27.5+/29+ Frame
Post by: MVinter on June 16, 2016, 03:59:02 AM
I can se some changes this will give:
- Minimize rotating mass (in this sense, I should have had 27,5+ in fork too).
- Slightly slacker HT
- Get BB slightly higher in relation to 27.5+ at both ends
- Retains the shortest possible chain stays
- Will have a shorter reach and higher stack

I´m quite worried about getting the bike to heavy and especially the wheels...
Title: Re: New CarbonSpeed 27.5+/29+ Frame
Post by: MVinter on June 16, 2016, 04:33:08 AM
One more thing:
Does anyone know how big chainring and cassette combo is possible before the chain hits the driveside CS? I would like to go e13 9-44 and maybe a 34 in the front...
Title: Re: New CarbonSpeed 27.5+/29+ Frame
Post by: Carbon_Dude on June 16, 2016, 05:59:51 AM
Rather than going with different wheel sizes front and rear, I'd recommend you go with 27.5" x 35-40mm rims and 2.8"-3.0" tires.  If you are wanting to buy this frame, no reason not to go for a plus tire.  If you are wanting to minimize rotating mass, 27.5+ would be a bit better for your desire to have lower rotating mass and you will have more grip than just going with 29" rear wheel.

If you are running a tubeless setup, Chupacabra 27.5+ tires, on carbon wheels with light weight hubs, I wouldn't think you would have much additional rotating mass compared to a 29"x2.4" wheel tire setup.

Given the drive side high chain stay, I would think a 34T chain ring would fit easily.
Title: Re: New CarbonSpeed 27.5+/29+ Frame
Post by: bxcc on June 16, 2016, 08:52:14 AM
I agree with Carbon_dude. Pick one or the other and go as light as you can. Especially with the wheels.

As far as 29+ or 27+, that is a tough call. I went with 29+ because I wanted a bad weather / winter bike that is a summer time rock and root eating monster truck with out being a fat bike. I already have a trail bike so there wasn't a need to make it that way. My wheels consist of the RM950C rims (50mm outer / 43mm inner widths) from Peter, Hope Pro4 boost hubs, DT Swiss Aerolite spokes, and DT Swiss Pro-lock brass nipples. The total weight was 1872 grams without tape or stems. They definitely aren't super light, but considering their size, they are far from heavy. The wheels on my singlespeed are DT Swiss aluminum rims (18mm inner), DT 350 hubs, DT Aerocomp spokes and aluminum nipples and they weight 1725g. On back to back rides, I can tell a difference between the two but I'm not sure if it's due to weight or just tire size and the massive contact patch with the ground. It's not a fat bike type of ride, and it doesn't feel heavy either, it just feels different.

What will be the main use for this bike and what type of terrain are you riding?
Title: Re: New CarbonSpeed 27.5+/29+ Frame
Post by: MVinter on June 16, 2016, 10:54:44 AM
My plan wasn't to have 29" in the rear, but 27.5+ rear and 29+ up front. I think you have to red my post once more and the arguments to use two wheelsizes. Liteville have been messing around with different wheelsizes for many years so this is nothing new...

Regarding rims: my plan is 40-50mm in both ends...
Title: Re: New CarbonSpeed 27.5+/29+ Frame
Post by: MVinter on June 16, 2016, 11:13:40 AM
Given the drive side high chain stay, I would think a 34T chain ring would fit easily.


Also with 50t cassette in combination? If I do boost the cassette I will need even bigger chainring...
Title: Re: New CarbonSpeed 27.5+/29+ Frame
Post by: MVinter on June 20, 2016, 04:01:35 PM
Anyone?
Title: Re: New CarbonSpeed 27.5+/29+ Frame
Post by: Carbon_Dude on June 20, 2016, 04:09:30 PM
I've owned a Trek 69er, similar idea, 26" rear wheel, 29" front wheel.  Seemed to work well at the time.  I see no problem with trying out a mixed wheel size.

As for your chainring, if you have a 50T rear cog, I'd think you could start with a 34T ring up front to get more top end while still having a good ratio for climbing.
Title: Re: New CarbonSpeed 27.5+/29+ Frame
Post by: MVinter on June 21, 2016, 12:30:03 AM
I have decided that I will try 29+ in both ends and see how this feels. The main reason is that I have a 6-inch trail bike with 27,5 wheels and this will be replaced with a 29+ FS when I can find a bike I like (maybe next season). Then I will have only 29er wheels except for the rear wheel on this accutal bike... Right now I have too many wheel (26, 27,5, 29) and tires (city, commuting, winther, trail, downhill) in my garage and I will narrow it down to only 29er.

Regarding chainring: I think I will follow your advice with a 34t chainring. Start with a 11-42 cassette and if this is to heavy i will boost this to 50t.

I can't decide if I should go for Sram or shimano drivetrain... Pricewise shimano is much better and the possibility to boost the cassette to 50t is also a point. Sram eagle is way out of my budget... How is the performance with Sram GX?
Title: Re: New CarbonSpeed 27.5+/29+ Frame
Post by: Carbon_Dude on June 21, 2016, 07:01:08 AM
The two differences on SRAM GX vs SRAM XX1 is weight and how smooth the shifting is.  However, XX1 is about 3 times the price.  The GX 1x11 on my Stache is fine, but it doesn't have the same feel as my XX1 stuff.
Title: Re: New CarbonSpeed 27.5+/29+ Frame
Post by: MVinter on June 23, 2016, 10:29:58 AM
I think i will go with GX or shimano XT/XTR. Thank you for good input!
Title: Re: New CarbonSpeed 27.5+/29+ Frame
Post by: carbonazza on June 23, 2016, 01:53:18 PM
Just to put some fog :)

You can mix things, as long as you use 11sp elements, everything runs fine.
Title: Re: New CarbonSpeed 27.5+/29+ Frame
Post by: SportingGoods on June 24, 2016, 03:57:53 AM
shifter still needs to match the RD, right?
Title: Re: New CarbonSpeed 27.5+/29+ Frame
Post by: bxcc on June 24, 2016, 06:21:54 AM
Nope. All can be mixed. Just keep everything 11 speed.
Title: Re: New CarbonSpeed 27.5+/29+ Frame
Post by: SportingGoods on June 24, 2016, 07:45:07 AM
 :-[ I'm still using... 2x9  :-[

I might go to 1x now that 12sp offers almost the same range as my 2x9. But price is going to be very different!!
Title: Re: New CarbonSpeed 27.5+/29+ Frame
Post by: carbonazza on June 24, 2016, 06:42:12 PM
Nope. All can be mixed. Just keep everything 11 speed.
Yes and no, the shifter and the derailleur must be 11sp but from the same brand.
You can't mix SRAM and Shimano for the shifter/derailleur combination.
Title: Re: New CarbonSpeed 27.5+/29+ Frame
Post by: SportingGoods on June 27, 2016, 08:33:49 AM
You know what? Because of the current contest to win this frame I started to really look into its spec (so, yes, advertising works :) ).

For some reason I thought it was a pure 29+ frame but then I started to notice it shows 27.5+ as well. So, I looked at the geometry today and... I LOVE IT!! I consider this frame as a perfect replacement for my current frame (which is a regular 29"):
- Boost axle (I'd love to use a Nobby Nic in the rear, at least in the winter)
- Short chainstay (actually shorter then my current 29" frame)
- Slack head angle
- Same seat post tube size (I don't have to replace my reverb seatpost!!)
- Same weight (it's good to not take any weight penalty when switching to a new frame)

Actually, the beauty of this frame being compatible 29+ is that running it with 27.5+ will drop the BB, so that I could use an even longer travel fork, to compensate a bit (maybe 10-20 mm longer).
I've been thinking a lot about going to Full-Sus CS-M04 but that's more then 1kg added (frame is +800g, shock is +200g, probably some additional hardware). It offers Full-Sus comfort and grip but a hard tail with 2 Nobby Nic 3.0 would be plenty with a 140 mm travel fork.

So... now I really wish I win this frame  :P :P :P
And if I don't, I'll think again... CS-M04 or CS-496
Title: Re: New CarbonSpeed 27.5+/29+ Frame
Post by: Midwest-MTBer on July 15, 2016, 11:30:37 AM
You know what? Because of the current contest to win this frame I started to really look into its spec (so, yes, advertising works :) ).

For some reason I thought it was a pure 29+ frame but then I started to notice it shows 27.5+ as well. So, I looked at the geometry today and... I LOVE IT!! I consider this frame as a perfect replacement for my current frame (which is a regular 29"):
- Boost axle (I'd love to use a Nobby Nic in the rear, at least in the winter)
- Short chainstay (actually shorter then my current 29" frame)
- Slack head angle
- Same seat post tube size (I don't have to replace my reverb seatpost!!)
- Same weight (it's good to not take any weight penalty when switching to a new frame)

Actually, the beauty of this frame being compatible 29+ is that running it with 27.5+ will drop the BB, so that I could use an even longer travel fork, to compensate a bit (maybe 10-20 mm longer).
I've been thinking a lot about going to Full-Sus CS-M04 but that's more then 1kg added (frame is +800g, shock is +200g, probably some additional hardware). It offers Full-Sus comfort and grip but a hard tail with 2 Nobby Nic 3.0 would be plenty with a 140 mm travel fork.

So... now I really wish I win this frame  :P :P :P
And if I don't, I'll think again... CS-M04 or CS-496

Wow.. SportingGoods you are lucky! Your wish came true! Make sure to keep us updated on your new build once you receive your frame!
Title: Re: New CarbonSpeed 27.5+/29+ Frame
Post by: m789 on July 24, 2016, 09:26:01 AM
hi y all,

a bit OT but still it looks like the same frame;

has anyone oredered the:
2016 VeloBuild carbon fiber MTB 27.5er plus frame for 3.0″ tires

http://www.velobuildmall.com/product/2016-velobuild-carbon-fiber-mtb-27-5er-plus-frame-for-3-0-tires/?attribute_pa_carbon-weave=ud&attribute_pa_finish=matte&attribute_pa_bottom-braket=pf30&attribute_pa_frame-sizes=18-5 (http://www.velobuildmall.com/product/2016-velobuild-carbon-fiber-mtb-27-5er-plus-frame-for-3-0-tires/?attribute_pa_carbon-weave=ud&attribute_pa_finish=matte&attribute_pa_bottom-braket=pf30&attribute_pa_frame-sizes=18-5)

or have dealt with velobuild before?
your experiance? is it legit?

the price seems ACE if its the same frame...

thx, br, M
Title: Re: New CarbonSpeed 27.5+/29+ Frame
Post by: SportingGoods on July 24, 2016, 02:57:53 PM
Agreed that price is low. Frame is similar but not the same. For sure not the same mold.
And the frame is a bit light to make me feel safe about it. I always prefer too heavy then too light with Chinese carbon parts.
There is a risk. Worth it? It's up to you to decide!

And note that the fork is not included in that price. It comes extra.
Title: Re: New CarbonSpeed 27.5+/29+ Frame
Post by: Sooner10 on September 22, 2016, 07:28:27 PM
I notice on the Lamer frame, that the cable is routed only through the back, downtube. on others, it spans the gap between the front and back tubes.

I think I much prefer the look of the single tube routing. Does anyone know how, or if, Peters frames are able to be done that way?

Keep in mind, I'm a total newbie at this, be gentle :)
Title: Re: New CarbonSpeed 27.5+/29+ Frame
Post by: patada on September 27, 2016, 11:32:39 AM
can someone hook me up with CS-496 price?.. just ballpark price I'm very interested and email peter yesterday and haven't heard back yet. how do you place an order.. just though email communication... is there no shopping cart or normal web page checkout?
Title: Re: New CarbonSpeed 27.5+/29+ Frame
Post by: MVinter on September 27, 2016, 12:59:43 PM
I dont remeber the price I payed, but somewhere in the 5-600$ area... This was included fixed fork if i'm not wrong.

You order thru e-Mail and get pay-pal info afterwards. It feels a bit strange but I have no negative to say about Peter. He usually answer e-Mail extremly quick!
Title: Re: New CarbonSpeed 27.5+/29+ Frame
Post by: Sooner10 on September 27, 2016, 06:07:33 PM
Last week Peter quoted me a price, without a front fork, of $425. For the frame.
Title: Re: New CarbonSpeed 27.5+/29+ Frame
Post by: MVinter on September 28, 2016, 12:42:49 AM
I guess the fork is 100$ + so around 550$ for frame and fork.
Title: Re: New CarbonSpeed 27.5+/29+ Frame
Post by: tlmadsen on November 29, 2016, 09:05:24 AM
Is anybody riding this frame with 29+ tires and the fixed fork. Seems like a "cheap" option to try out  29+

BR

Thomas
Title: Re: New CarbonSpeed 27.5+/29+ Frame
Post by: Carbon_Dude on November 29, 2016, 09:12:00 AM
I am really enjoying my 29+ bike.  I'm not a fan of a rigid fork but I see plenty of people that ride that way.

I was very close to ordering a CS-496 from Peter but ended up finding a used Stache 9 frame on eBay.  I plan on building up a second Stache (hardtail 29+) because I have all the parts.  I may end up selling the bike as I don't need two 29+ bikes and going with a brand name frame will make it easier to sell.  However, if I were to keep the bike as my only 29+ option, I would have gotten the carbon frame from Peter.
Title: Re: New CarbonSpeed 27.5+/29+ Frame (CS-496)
Post by: circoloco on December 11, 2016, 03:45:09 AM
I am finally ready to order and start building that bike, or at least the xmcarbonspeed version of it. I would love to get recommendations on components:

Thanks!
Title: Re: New CarbonSpeed 27.5+/29+ Frame (CS-496)
Post by: SportingGoods on December 12, 2016, 02:36:29 AM
Good choice!  ;)

Which wheel size do you plan? 27.5 or 29?

    carbon rims: 40 or 50mm? Peter recommended 40mm. With 3.0" tires and Boost Fork I'd be tempted to go 50mm. The reason I picked 40 is because I started with regular axles (front and rear). The only reason to pick 40 mm now would be weight. Other then that 50 mm would fit better with 3.0 tires.
    crankset: do regular PF92 cranks fit? I have a 180mm X9 PF92 lying around here, as I'm 193cm tall, I like long cranks. Don't know! I use BB86.
    tires: which 3.0 tires are good, price does matter ;) I like Nobby Nic. But I've tried Maxis Rekon+ that are great rear tires if you don't have too much mud.
    drop seatpost: same question, price does matter ;) Reverb Stealth, what else?!
Title: Re: New CarbonSpeed 27.5+/29+ Frame (CS-496)
Post by: bxcc on December 12, 2016, 06:33:48 AM
As far as rims go, are you talking about outer or inner width? 40 outer which is roughly 34ish inner are too narrow in my opinion. I'm very happy with 30mm inner rims and 2.3 tires so going to a 3 inch tire on 34mm inner just seems backwards and counterproductive. I'm running the RM950C rims from Peter and I'm super happy with them. They are laced to Hope Pro4 hubs with DT Swiss Aerolite spokes (same as Sapim CX-Ray) and brass nipples (32 hole 3 cross). The weight was 1850ish grams. Using lighter hubs like DT 240's, aluminum nipples and doing a 28 hole 2 cross build should easily put you at 1700 grams.
Title: Re: New CarbonSpeed 27.5+/29+ Frame (CS-496)
Post by: circoloco on December 12, 2016, 09:25:05 AM
Thanks @SportingGoods and @bxcc!!

Which wheel size do you plan? 27.5 or 29?

29+. Peter recommended 40mm so I can run regular 29er tires as well as 29+.
Here's his spec:

I'll ask him for a lightweigt 50mm version...
Title: Re: New CarbonSpeed 27.5+/29+ Frame (CS-496)
Post by: SportingGoods on December 12, 2016, 04:03:03 PM
Sorry I got confused on the cranks, the frame needs BB92 bottom bracket. There are so many standards that it's really confusing! not sure what you call PF92 cranks. A BB92 BB takes any standard crankset (the same as BSA 68 and 73 mm), it's just that with BB92 the bearings are inside the frame when they are outside for 68/73mm BB.

Then, I'd say that you will not want to use regular 29" tires on such a frame. Don't entertain this possibility. Once you'll get into the + size you'll just stick to it, trust me. Pick whatever rims width you want but not for such a wrong reason.
For your reference, the Trek Stache 9.8 uses wide rims: 41mm internal 46mm external.
Title: Re: New CarbonSpeed 27.5+/29+ Frame (CS-496)
Post by: circoloco on December 13, 2016, 01:54:36 AM
A BB92 BB takes any standard crankset (the same as BSA 68 and 73 mm), it's just that with BB92 the bearings are inside the frame when they are outside for 68/73mm BB.
I finally got it, BB92. I'll only need a pressfit BB. Very good. So the Q factor is within a standard range (3,25 tires -> wider chainstays?), no fatsize crank spindles needed?

Once you'll get into the + size you'll just stick to it, trust me. Pick whatever rims width you want but not for such a wrong reason.
Ok, you're right. It's stupid to consider options that will never happen. This bike will be a 29+, basta.
BUT: I couldn't find any 29+ carbon wheelsets with 50mm on aliexpress or alibaba other than the ICAN wheelset for 590EUR with Powerway hubs (ICAN website) or Novatec hubs (ebay), Peter as well only lists the 40mm wheelset. I'm not capable of building wheels myself. Any recommendations?
Title: Re: New CarbonSpeed 27.5+/29+ Frame (CS-496)
Post by: bxcc on December 13, 2016, 06:12:12 AM
A BB92 BB takes any standard crankset (the same as BSA 68 and 73 mm), it's just that with BB92 the bearings are inside the frame when they are outside for 68/73mm BB.
I finally got it, BB92. I'll only need a pressfit BB. Very good. So the Q factor is within a standard range (3,25 tires -> wider chainstays?), no fatsize crank spindles needed?

Once you'll get into the + size you'll just stick to it, trust me. Pick whatever rims width you want but not for such a wrong reason.
Ok, you're right. It's stupid to consider options that will never happen. This bike will be a 29+, basta.
BUT: I couldn't find any 29+ carbon wheelsets with 50mm on aliexpress or alibaba other than the ICAN wheelset for 590EUR with Powerway hubs (ICAN website) or Novatec hubs (ebay), Peter as well only lists the 40mm wheelset. I'm not capable of building wheels myself. Any recommendations?

Crankset - Standard 68/73 cranksets work fine. Yes you just need a BB92 bottom bracket. A longer spindle crankset will NOT work with the bottom bracket.

Wheels - It's good to consider it if you think it will definitely happen. But in reality, swapping tires is a pain in the but and probably won't happen after the first time or two. Peter may not list the wheels on the site but he can build any of the rims to the hubs he has listed.
Title: Re: New CarbonSpeed 27.5+/29+ Frame (CS-496)
Post by: Carbon_Dude on December 31, 2016, 08:50:55 PM
Love my 29+ bikes, Trek put 50mm wide Sun-Ringle Mulefut SL aluminum rims on the Stache 7 and 9, but went do 40mm wide carbon rims for the Stache 9.8.  Both seem to work well with the Bontrager Chupacabra 29x3.0 tires (which are very good tires BTW).
Title: Re: New CarbonSpeed 27.5+/29+ Frame (CS-496)
Post by: Luke.moore on January 20, 2017, 08:40:35 PM
Does anyone know which chris king headset works in this frame? For the king bottom bracket, I'm guessing the press fit 24 with kit #6 is what would work on this frame. Its what i've got in my Stache 9.
Title: Re: New CarbonSpeed 27.5+/29+ Frame (CS-496)
Post by: SportingGoods on January 23, 2017, 03:35:28 AM
I don't know. I just bought the headset from CS. That's what I did with all my Chinese frames. Then I just replace the bearings, not the entire headset, (reading the reference on the bearings) with high quality (SKF, Enduro) when I need to replace (not often!).
Title: Re: New CarbonSpeed 27.5+/29+ Frame (CS-496)
Post by: carbonazza on January 23, 2017, 11:39:54 AM
I don't know. I just bought the headset from CS. That's what I did with all my Chinese frames. Then I just replace the bearings, not the entire headset, (reading the reference on the bearings) with high quality (SKF, Enduro) when I need to replace (not often!).

I'm from another school :)
They are disposable parts to me. Especially the bottom bearing.
I buy cheap bearings from Aliexpress, or even the full headset for about $10 to $15
Title: Re: New CarbonSpeed 27.5+/29+ Frame (CS-496)
Post by: seat_boy on September 02, 2017, 04:48:52 PM
Has anyone tried to fit a 29+ wheel in the forward (420mm) position on the chainstays on this frame? If the Stache can do it...
Title: Re: New CarbonSpeed 27.5+/29+ Frame (CS-496)
Post by: John75 on March 28, 2018, 08:55:48 AM
Hello Does anyone know if C496 frame can accommodate a single front chainring 38T?
Title: Re: New CarbonSpeed 27.5+/29+ Frame (CS-496)
Post by: tripleDot on April 02, 2018, 02:18:43 AM
Hello Does anyone know if C496 frame can accommodate a single front chainring 38T?

38T chainring fits with lots of room in CS-496.
Title: Re: New CarbonSpeed 27.5+/29+ Frame (CS-496)
Post by: ottoreni on April 05, 2018, 10:56:46 AM
I just picked up one of the variations of this frame from AirWolf thru AlieExpress.  AirWolf was having their anniversary sale.   

It shipped out yesterday.  Should be here in about a week.

Even though I am excited, I will most likely not be able to build it up until summer.