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Chinese Carbon MTB => 26er & 27.5 (650b) => Topic started by: Alcaid on July 04, 2016, 08:57:47 AM

Title: Any experience with the Workswell WCB-M-109(27.5ER) FS frame?
Post by: Alcaid on July 04, 2016, 08:57:47 AM
Hi,

Has anyone here bought the WCB-M-109 frame from Workswell?

http://www.workswellbikes.com/web/view/199.html

(http://www.workswellbikes.com/upload/images/20160601105410_44556.jpg)
Title: Re: Any experience with the Workswell WCB-M-109(27.5ER) FS frame?
Post by: Molothi on August 05, 2016, 04:34:08 PM
hello Alcaid

I'm interested in making a new build with a FS 27.5 frame, and this one .... looks to be a good option for me

it looks like the Specialized Camber....

the only "detail" that blocks me is the BB, only BB92 is available, and that means using a Shimano BBraket which I would avoid - I real prefer SRAM ones
SRAM GXP uses 22mm on one side and 24mm on the other side, so .... the bb92 does not fit :-(

is there someone here who would have a solution to mount a SRAM BB on a frame with a BB92?

thank you in advance

Title: Re: Any experience with the Workswell WCB-M-109(27.5ER) FS frame?
Post by: bxcc on August 05, 2016, 08:27:04 PM
No experience with this particular frame but I have 2 others from WW and I would definitely get another if they had what I wanted. I say go for it.

hello Alcaid

I'm interested in making a new build with a FS 27.5 frame, and this one .... looks to be a good option for me

it looks like the Specialized Camber....

the only "detail" that blocks me is the BB, only BB92 is available, and that means using a Shimano BBraket which I would avoid - I real prefer SRAM ones
SRAM GXP uses 22mm on one side and 24mm on the other side, so .... the bb92 does not fit :-(

is there someone here who would have a solution to mount a SRAM BB on a frame with a BB92?

thank you in advance

Put "gxp bb92" into your favorite search engine and you will get what you need. SRAM makes a BB92 GXP bottom bracket.
Title: Re: Any experience with the Workswell WCB-M-109(27.5ER) FS frame?
Post by: Molothi on August 06, 2016, 08:27:45 AM
thank you bxcc

I found one  :)
In fact I did some search on my favorite resaler websites... and I did not pay attention enough on a comment/property for 2 of the results - I got it now

I have no reason not to got for it now  :)
I plan to pruchase it by end of the year, I' ll give some new about it when it will be on its way
Title: Re: Any experience with the Workswell WCB-M-109(27.5ER) FS frame?
Post by: Alcaid on August 11, 2016, 04:13:01 PM
I ordered the frame a few days ago, looking forward to receiving it :)
Title: Re: Any experience with the Workswell WCB-M-109(27.5ER) FS frame?
Post by: Molothi on August 28, 2016, 10:47:51 AM
Hello Alcaid

I'm looking froward getting nes from about it :-)
My build is compledted on the paper (my project is to try to be under 10,5kg (fully equiped, and on the paper... it works)  ;D, but I'm still hesitating for the frame size. This one has a shorter top tube compared to others for 17,5" It's just 1cm... but it can make a big difference in terms of position/comfort
so... my big question remains 17'5 "or 19"....
we'll see, I plan to place an order bu end of the year

What is your frame size?

have you found any build example with this frame on the web? I could not find any , so yours will the one  ;)

I hope you'll share some pics when you get it

cheers
Title: Re: Any experience with the Workswell WCB-M-109(27.5ER) FS frame?
Post by: Alcaid on August 30, 2016, 08:19:09 AM
Hi,

not found anyone using this frame before

I ordered the 19" size, I typically use smaller frames (17.5-18") but crunching the geometry numbers the 19" works best for me

Supposed to ship out from Workswell tomorrow!  :)
Title: Re: Any experience with the Workswell WCB-M-109(27.5ER) FS frame?
Post by: Molothi on August 30, 2016, 03:29:45 PM
Excellent  :)

did they had it in stock?

for the size, I think I'll do the same as you: take a 19"whereas I usually take smaller ones

can you share with us your plans for the build? or maybe you've not yet completed your equipment list

I could see you also hace a CS-196.... we'll get twins  ;D
Title: Re: Any experience with the Workswell WCB-M-109(27.5ER) FS frame?
Post by: Alcaid on August 31, 2016, 02:08:37 PM
Frame was not in stock. Payed August 10th, supposed to ship out today August 31st (no confirmation received yet though)

Got all parts ready to assemble, not made a list yet  ;)
Title: Re: Any experience with the Workswell WCB-M-109(27.5ER) FS frame?
Post by: Alcaid on September 01, 2016, 12:28:06 AM
Bad news - my frame didn't pass the QC. They needed to produce a new frame. Asked for the new shipping date.

On another note it's a good thing to see they have thorough QC control before shipping out a frame.
Title: Re: Any experience with the Workswell WCB-M-109(27.5ER) FS frame?
Post by: Alcaid on September 02, 2016, 06:13:20 AM
Expected to ship September 15th....  :-\
Title: Re: Any experience with the Workswell WCB-M-109(27.5ER) FS frame?
Post by: carbonazza on September 02, 2016, 09:41:30 AM
Having a frame not in stock in a month or so from China, that is not that bad.
Title: Re: Any experience with the Workswell WCB-M-109(27.5ER) FS frame?
Post by: Molothi on September 03, 2016, 02:23:41 AM
That's even quite fast.

I  allready experienced longer delays to get a well known brand bike not available in the shop stock but in the region stock place...

I'm really looking forward reading your feedback abou the frame and seeing your pics :-)

Title: Re: Any experience with the Workswell WCB-M-109(27.5ER) FS frame?
Post by: Alcaid on September 05, 2016, 02:18:35 AM
Having a frame not in stock in a month or so from China, that is not that bad.

To me it felt like they told a little child in mid December that Christmas is delayed 15 days ;D Will be worth the wait I'm sure!
Title: Re: Any experience with the Workswell WCB-M-109(27.5ER) FS frame?
Post by: Alcaid on September 18, 2016, 02:30:30 PM
August 10th - paid for the frame
August 31st - 1st promised ship date - delayed
September 15th - 2nd promised ship date - delayed
September 19th - 3rd promised ship date - delayed

Now supposed to ship "end of month"

I really miss dealing with Peter / XMCarbonSpeed, but he didn't have the frame I wanted this time :(
Title: Re: Any experience with the Workswell WCB-M-109(27.5ER) FS frame?
Post by: Molothi on September 19, 2016, 04:13:39 AM
sad news Alcaid  :(

but ... patience will pay  ;) (i hope so)
Title: Re: Any experience with the Workswell WCB-M-109(27.5ER) FS frame?
Post by: SportingGoods on September 19, 2016, 10:35:54 AM
This puts Workswell on my black list. I hate this kind of communication where they wait till the deadline to give you another one.
Title: Re: Any experience with the Workswell WCB-M-109(27.5ER) FS frame?
Post by: Alcaid on September 30, 2016, 04:53:43 AM
August 10th - paid for the frame
August 31st - 1st promised ship date - delayed
September 15th - 2nd promised ship date - delayed
September 19th - 3rd promised ship date - delayed

Now supposed to ship "end of month"

I really miss dealing with Peter / XMCarbonSpeed, but he didn't have the frame I wanted this time :(

Here we go again....

We are at the end of the month and still no confirmed ship date... Maybe it will ship out October 8th, but date is not confirmed....
Title: Re: Any experience with the Workswell WCB-M-109(27.5ER) FS frame?
Post by: Molothi on October 03, 2016, 03:36:26 PM
Any news Alcaid about the shipment?

I'm surprized about the delays you got... I could see some vey good comments about Workswell ...
Title: Re: Any experience with the Workswell WCB-M-109(27.5ER) FS frame?
Post by: carbonazza on October 03, 2016, 03:54:36 PM
I'm surprised too. My experience with Workswell was great.
There is may be a cultural difference about not wanting to disappoint, loosing face or something when something goes wrong, that we do not understand.
As we prefer generally to address issues directly and clearly, this is hard.
Title: Re: Any experience with the Workswell WCB-M-109(27.5ER) FS frame?
Post by: Alcaid on October 08, 2016, 10:33:55 PM
Frame is finally ready and being shipped this weekend. At least I have a tracking number now but no activity on it yet.
Title: Re: Any experience with the Workswell WCB-M-109(27.5ER) FS frame?
Post by: Molothi on October 09, 2016, 04:56:47 AM
excellent news  ;)
I imagine how eager you could be now to receive it
looking forward receiving pics about it and about your build too
Title: Re: Any experience with the Workswell WCB-M-109(27.5ER) FS frame?
Post by: Alcaid on October 21, 2016, 02:36:07 AM
Finally received the frame this week, updates will follow :)
Title: Re: Any experience with the Workswell WCB-M-109(27.5ER) FS frame?
Post by: Molothi on October 22, 2016, 07:27:08 AM
I was just about asking you if you had some news
 so it' s indeed Good news  ;)
Title: Re: Any experience with the Workswell WCB-M-109(27.5ER) FS frame?
Post by: Molothi on November 03, 2016, 04:18:22 PM
Hello Alcaid

any "out of the box"comment about your frame?
working hard on the build ?

Title: Re: Any experience with the Workswell WCB-M-109(27.5ER) FS frame?
Post by: Alcaid on November 04, 2016, 04:42:15 AM
Bike is built, just haven't had the time to ride it and take any good pictures yet  :-\
Title: Re: Any experience with the Workswell WCB-M-109(27.5ER) FS frame?
Post by: carbonazza on November 04, 2016, 06:46:01 AM
I always get emotional when seeing a squeaky clean cassette, derailleur, chain and chainring. Nice colors :)
Title: Re: Any experience with the Workswell WCB-M-109(27.5ER) FS frame?
Post by: Molothi on November 04, 2016, 04:05:24 PM
looks good  ;)

what is your opion about the frame ?
is it at the level of your expectations?

what is your frame size? and can you put a picture with the bike completly viewable?

Title: Re: Any experience with the Workswell WCB-M-109(27.5ER) FS frame?
Post by: Alcaid on November 28, 2016, 07:41:59 AM
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a345/Alcaid/0A11E6DA-B4A8-4109-B9FF-D9A980EF2949_zpstkza0cfx.jpg)

(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a345/Alcaid/69CBCDC2-F909-4F09-A36C-6E94BC2DC551_zpswhf4m4m3.jpg)
Title: Re: Any experience with the Workswell WCB-M-109(27.5ER) FS frame?
Post by: carbonazza on November 28, 2016, 08:15:07 AM
Not sure why, but these pictures look like happiness :)
How does it ride?
Title: Re: Any experience with the Workswell WCB-M-109(27.5ER) FS frame?
Post by: Molothi on November 28, 2016, 03:03:28 PM
oh yeeeess - what a beautiful build....

what is size is your frame: 17.5 or 19 ?

regards
Title: Re: Any experience with the Workswell WCB-M-109(27.5ER) FS frame?
Post by: Alcaid on November 28, 2016, 04:16:27 PM
19"

My first FS so I really don't have much to compare it against I'm afraid
Title: Re: Any experience with the Workswell WCB-M-109(27.5ER) FS frame?
Post by: Molothi on November 29, 2016, 02:03:25 PM
thanks Alcaid

did you checked the frame weight when you received it?

I got an update today .... mine should be finished  in 25 days :-)
Title: Re: Any experience with the Workswell WCB-M-109(27.5ER) FS frame?
Post by: Alcaid on November 29, 2016, 02:31:59 PM
My 19" frame was 2220gr, with "dummy" rear shock and rear axle
Title: Re: Any experience with the Workswell WCB-M-109(27.5ER) FS frame?
Post by: Molothi on November 29, 2016, 04:05:17 PM
thanks Alcaid

I've ordered a 19"too

what do you mean by "dummy" rear shock - do you mean the plastic part used for transportation?

if so, the weight wouldn't be in line with the given weight - I was told 2070gr without shock... we'll see

for my order, 25 days left does not let me any chance to get it for Christmass, but that's life.. it will arrive soon or later :-)
patience... patience :-)
I'll post some pics when I'll receive it
my build is already done..  on the paper, and if I can get all parts I want for a good price (Christmass time should help :-) ) it should be some kind of light FS bike (under 10.5kg with pedals)
we'll see  ;)
Title: Re: Any experience with the Workswell WCB-M-109(27.5ER) FS frame?
Post by: Alcaid on November 29, 2016, 04:47:19 PM
By "dummy" I meant the transport plastic part yes, same for the rear axle. Forgot to remove those before putting the frame on the scale  ::)
Title: Re: Any experience with the Workswell WCB-M-109(27.5ER) FS frame?
Post by: Ye7ia on December 02, 2016, 09:21:46 PM
I was too curious so I signed up and had to ask, what are your thoughts for Cross country terrain with the bike geometry?

Also what is your height? Thanks mate.

Title: Re: Any experience with the Workswell WCB-M-109(27.5ER) FS frame?
Post by: Alcaid on December 03, 2016, 04:11:52 AM
Frame is perfect for XC!

I am 177cm / 5' 10"
Title: Re: Any experience with the Workswell WCB-M-109(27.5ER) FS frame?
Post by: Molothi on December 04, 2016, 03:55:46 PM
By "dummy" I meant the transport plastic part yes, same for the rear axle. Forgot to remove those before putting the frame on the scale  ::)
It's what I thought.. but wanted to be sure
Thank you Alcaid ;-)
Title: Re: Any experience with the Workswell WCB-M-109(27.5ER) FS frame?
Post by: The1ne on December 30, 2016, 02:23:11 PM
How much was the price for the frame? I wanna buy the pike rct3. Which size is better 150mm or 160mm?
Title: Re: Any experience with the Workswell WCB-M-109(27.5ER) FS frame?
Post by: Molothi on December 31, 2016, 10:14:25 AM
Hello The1ne

I guess you did not read the frame specs with enough attention- a 100mm fork is required!
it's a XC/Marathon frame, not DH
 ;)
Title: Re: Any experience with the Workswell WCB-M-109(27.5ER) FS frame?
Post by: remlemasi on February 01, 2017, 04:50:24 PM
Do you think a Q156 XX1 crankset would fit on this frame?
Title: Re: Any experience with the Workswell WCB-M-109(27.5ER) FS frame?
Post by: carbonazza on February 04, 2017, 12:15:39 AM
Any usual Q factor will be fine.
What matter is the size of your chain ring.
32 teeth is normal, so you will never have issues around that size.
You may get in trouble with some frames if you use a 38 or higher.
Title: Re: Any experience with the Workswell WCB-M-109(27.5ER) FS frame?
Post by: remlemasi on February 04, 2017, 02:44:06 AM
Any usual Q factor will be fine.
What matter is the size of your chain ring.
32 teeth is normal, so you will never have issues around that size.
You may get in trouble with some frames if you use a 38 or higher.

Thanks for the feedback. So I guess Q156 is nothing out of the ordinary?
Title: Re: Any experience with the Workswell WCB-M-109(27.5ER) FS frame?
Post by: carbonazza on February 06, 2017, 04:25:58 AM
No, it is very common.
Title: Re: Any experience with the Workswell WCB-M-109(27.5ER) FS frame?
Post by: Molothi on March 10, 2017, 02:53:06 PM
My turn to start the build with this WCB-M-109 frame

I've almost received all parts - the 3 last are on the way to home
if I have no problem with the parcel shipping and if I have time... the build should be done by next week-end  ;D
I will Post some pics when it's done
Title: Re: Any experience with the Workswell WCB-M-109(27.5ER) FS frame?
Post by: Molothi on March 26, 2017, 04:21:59 PM
hi
the build is complete, bike is tested and approuved  ;D

Globally the frame quality is very good - cable routing entrance are great and give a better level than those I have on my other Chiner bike (it's similar to wellknown brands)

here it is: (https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/311q8WJJfGSe1iPO_T00DEjdwxsYI4fPrLfKjdBORLyI1DE5HRR5gac60a74H2V55sY4LS4d0um7mBBipmbV13xLdiivEp6XLroAVfX2iPFH6D87-x_x5y_iCAiug-qM1JHCZpwRkB0qVW2AVhmQKkzt7trPSNVemfFQmGQ5gXaWwWRlr6trYRtBdx0kCJfPOZIvJyEoTnuCz-cufBYBqRz_uq4_FflSf1btoCTV_3WVrJSiioSxzkyEhoWy6E7IgSMCv__jVxVZ7DOmLio4nRzGoxDOyT8YMJ6sIgfWLD6q4orT3Nby7h2KJshIvfJ11p7ns9rgy3niXwdTPHI4b97V1Bd5hQ3hNP6Smix66C1wQznECP_ED5rOGUmisJEpg1bSg-oHGxpn5Jlh08rJ0iMTHwsV5gGQXBdzkv0-ptLtYIKDyRxsU5VkdYcSUGkKrAcMxgoPgqRst-8_dbNS-5I_zIGd51lHQalIQKRu4BFOWvw1VTqZzkeLrqmQcZt50jHipkjtdKqPLAnhwaQO4FQieEEC0m-Nh95UAZX8_R_ObswN_l7TjDH9l26SaSPQjIW5GmIojaaRE6oQ3HSRidmvHQaZbUE1hfXPOTXYw8UMxcBZP_WcXqCpk1a5P4rVf0jw8W-rFjiuWztSBM2PsoZkaWXPJD2Pgd8j3pY8=w907-h680-no)

I have not checked its weight yet but  (after having verified most of the parts) it should weight 10kg (only  :D)

A few comments about the build:


I did a 66km ride with it and I'm really happy about the build - Lightweight, really comfortable, and a good position (I still need to adjust the handlebar to have it perfect  ;D )
it took me a lot of time to get all parts (5 months) but it was necessary to get good deals all of them.... so patience pays :-)

Now I need to train myself to enjoy more and more rides with it  ;)
Title: Re: Any experience with the Workswell WCB-M-109(27.5ER) FS frame?
Post by: Carbon_Dude on April 02, 2017, 07:03:45 PM
Nice feedback.  Glad you got your new bike put together and are enjoying it.
Title: Re: Any experience with the Workswell WCB-M-109(27.5ER) FS frame?
Post by: Molothi on April 09, 2017, 03:11:12 PM
Thank you Carbon_Dude  ;)

I have done some more rides since my last post, and specially this week-end in a rocky area with a lot off hills... and I really appreciated my Full Suspension bike   ;D (easy for climbs and very stable for downhill tracks)
I found that I need to a little more pressure in the fork and shox for this kind of ride - but the behavior is already almost perfect
The shox RS Monarch RT3 is a good choice - I hesitated to buy a Fox one... but RS is really less expensive and does a good job
more I ride more I'm happy of the frame/components choices ( will I take my hartail again ????  :D)

Title: Re: Any experience with the Workswell WCB-M-109(27.5ER) FS frame?
Post by: velobuild on April 20, 2017, 08:04:08 PM
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Title: Re: Any experience with the Workswell WCB-M-109(27.5ER) FS frame?
Post by: oscarfaba on April 26, 2017, 06:48:59 AM
Hola yo tengo este mismo marco pero en 29" y es cierto que el plato de 34T no entra, yo lo tengo montado y tuve  que quitar la chapa met├ílica para montarlo, mi intencion es montar 36T pero me parece que no voy a poder.

un saludo
Title: Re: Any experience with the Workswell WCB-M-109(27.5ER) FS frame?
Post by: Molothi on April 28, 2017, 11:25:04 AM
thank you for the feedback
I think I'll do the same when I'll take a 34 ring