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Re: Ican S3 XC Frame As an update, I was finally able to get in contact with ICAN (posed a question re their frames, almost immediate response...)

Anyway they are (allegedly) sending me a new chain stay. Hopefully the 8 days it took the original frame to arrive is the same for the part.

Now to decide if I repair the cracked one to keep as a spare, or cut it open in the name of science!
June 18, 2021, 02:39:59 AM 		1
Re: Ican S3 XC Frame I received the new chainstay today. 4 weeks after they agreed to replace, this did come on EMS though rather than DHL that the original frame came on - which is a large part of that.

The area where mine cracked appears to have slightly different shape, so I wonder if they have expereinced some problems, or if it is normal variance in parts.
July 14, 2021, 11:38:46 PM 		2
Re: Ican S3 XC Frame I'm 1.82 and got L, but it depends on the reach you would prefer.
Yes, it has internal dropper routing.
Frame came with headset
You'll need a bushing set for your shock. Off the top of my head, mine took 30mm
July 31, 2021, 01:50:14 AM 		1
Re: Ican S3 XC Frame
Quote from: Liter on August 02, 2021, 04:00:22 PM
Thanks, I think I will go with the FM936 considering they ship with a fork and for a better price.

Might want to confirm that, when I was looking at them they offered a rear shock, at a reasonable additional cost. I know their product imagery shows a fork fitted but not necessarily included.
August 12, 2021, 03:39:07 PM 		1
Re: Ican S3 XC Frame Further update,

I've finally been able to get my hands on a proper trunnion mount shock (Fox DPS Factory damn!!!)
Can confirm that a 165x45 fits and cycles cleanly with plenty of rear arch clearance as previously confirmed in this thread.

  • I really need to work on a paint job for it.
  • Still sitting on a hacked RS Revelation out the front, I don't like it. My old Reba was plush, my Lyrik is plush, this revelation is harsh, blows through its travel and is just unfun. Once I can get a 34SC I think that will get it there.
  • Change the DT trail rim out back for a carbon rim. Just waiting for CarbonBeam to have a sale again to pick up one of theirs.
August 12, 2021, 03:45:08 PM 		1
Re: Ican S3 XC Frame Little bit of an update to my cracked chain stay. I did receive my replacement from ican but I've continued to use the cracked one to see what happens. Cracking grew a little but has then held steady. I recently destroyed a chain ring so whilst I had the crank off I did some exploratory sanding. Interestingly it would appear there was a layup fault that had been "fixed" with fibre filler. I think the filler has cracked not the carbon.

I'll purchase some ud tape and epoxy and see how I go for effecting a repair.
August 17, 2021, 08:13:35 PM 		2
Re: Any good carbon rim you guys would recommend?
Quote from: Ben78 on July 26, 2021, 03:27:52 PM
I put a CarbonBeam on the front of my ICAN, the 29er 25mm ID 30mm deep rims come on discount at around $118usd and I put a Venfort Pro 4 hub on with Pillar TB2018 spokes, total front wheel weight is around 640g, it is great, hit a bank hard enough to pop the bead but it resealed and I was able to ride out and when I pulled the tyre to clean the mud from the bead no visible damage, and no re truing required. Very happy and have the 220g venfort rear hub here waiting for CarbonBeam to go on sale again to get another for the rear.

Just wanted to add a note to this, shipping times ex china seem to have exploded. This rim here took 8-10 days to arrive from paying, I ordered another one on August 21 to build my rear wheel and now, September 19 it still hasn't arrived. I have two items in my mail tracking app from Aliexpress that claim expected delivery this coming week. Hopefully it does!
September 18, 2021, 04:03:23 PM 		1
Re: Lexon or Carbonda (or....)
Quote from: carbonazza on October 15, 2021, 10:35:21 AM
You can contact them directly by email: wing [at] carbonda.com

I did an enduro race in July, just swapping the wheels.
And the Swiss Epic, an XC race, in August.
Both with the 120mm fork.
The bike had harsher terrains than it is designed for, and survived 3 crashes.

I won a local enduro in August on my Ican X3 which is a Horst Link version of the 936, and didn't change the wheels lol. Incredibly capable bikes. I've had a lot of bikes and I just love getting on this thing. It is starting to get pretty dinged up, but one day I'll fill the scratches, sand it back and give it the proper paint job it deserves.
October 20, 2021, 02:19:24 PM 		3
Re: Ican S3 XC Frame
Quote from: the.Capt on November 15, 2021, 12:16:12 AM
How is everyone finding the sizing of this frame?

I've got a medium Ripmo AF with 458mm Reach. I'm 5' 8.5" and find the bike to fit good if a touch long.  A large Ripmo has a 475mm reach and would be too big for sure. 

This S3 medium at 475 reach seems like it will be too big.  But a small frame seems strange to me.

Anyone else dealt with this new sizing and had to size down?

Thank you.

Keep in mind that reach is independent of seat angle, so this frame with a 1° steeper seat tube has a shorter perceived reach. If your seat top is 600mm above the bottom bracket 1° steeper makes it 10mm more forward, so comparing with your Ripmo the perceived reach of the S3 would be more like 465, there are other factors at play too, because reach is not measured on the rotational centre of the bike, rather off the bottom bracket, if you put a 120mm fork on your S3 the result is an effective shortening of the reach from stock. Say this was another few mm and we are now at something like 462mm perceived reach - not all that different to the 458 Ripmo (which incidentally is a 160mm bike, so at 30% sag sits 48mm lower at the front compared to a 120mm bike which sits 40mm lower, further acting to close the reach gap).

Anyway, what I'm trying to say is it is a lot more complicated than just comparing a single figure on geometry to arrive at a conclusion, especially when the two bikes are aimed at different styles (for example, take a look at the reach numbers on dual crown downhill bikes!) A really great website to compare geometry is 99 Spokes - https://99spokes.com/en-AU/compare?bikes=vitus-rapide-fs-cr-mountain-2021;*z.MD|w.29,ibis-ripmo-af-slx-2021;*z.MD|w.29 this link compares the Ripmo with the Vitus Rapide FS which is a Vitus branded FM936 which is the same geo as the Ican S3 It makes it pretty easy to see what the differences are.
November 17, 2021, 01:36:23 PM 		1
Re: Ican S3 XC Frame Just wanted to share, I've been riding my ICAN S3 for nearly 10 months, and have put a modest 1200km on it. This weekend just gone I entered a NSW Enduro series and decided to run the S3 rather than my S-Works Enduro - the particular course is very rocky off the top but transitions to flowy single track with berms and jumps, little else by way of technical features. Anyway, I took out P1 in my category and finished 17th overall from 110 participants.

I've ridden a lot of different bikes, and honestly this one has been the most fun I've ever had on a bike. If I could buy the exact same frame in 140mm travel I'd be all over it, I think then I'd sell my Enduro as it would be redundant! (for the courses I ride anyway).
February 14, 2022, 02:02:59 PM 		6