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Re: Lightcarbon: New LCR017-D (or Yishun R1058-D)
It just so happens that the Taipei Bike Show is happening this weekend, and I will go check it out.  I know Longteng has a booth, and likely other Chinese OEMs as well.  I'll report back on anything interesting.  (Let me know if anyone has any specific requests or questions in my DMs ... but I won't take requests for Hambini hairdresser pics, sorry....)

Just got back from the Taipei Bike Show – today was B2B and not open to the public, sh*t!.  I was dying to get in, so I ran down the street to the 7/11 and printed out a bogus business card and got in lol…

Of the Chinese open mold manufacturers, I only saw LightCarbon and Longteng.  Velobuild didn’t attend.  (And I didn’t see a presence from other Chinertown favorites like Elitewheels, Ltwoo, Winspace, Magene, etc.)  But I did get to see the LC017 and the LT266 in person, and got some intel on a new LT301 that will be released in a few months:

LC017: yes the downtube is quite boxy, but in person it looks/feels a bit more rounded than what’s on their website.  And the seat tube is rounded, not at all like the seat tube shown on their website.  Here is a video that I took: https://imgur.com/a/PNHdhI5.  It’s a niiiiice looking frame.

Interestingly, I saw several high-end bikes at the show with similarly boxy down tubes with sharp edges, including the Giant TCR, a Bianchi, a Bianchi Raparto Corse, and a Java Volata that won a gold award at the show: https://imgur.com/a/NEb8cpZ.  I talked to one of the bike designers and asked them about the design choice, and he said that they use less materials to keep the bike light weight, and squares are stronger than curved shapes.  In other words, for an all-arounder, they sacrificed certain aero gains in favor of weight savings.  I’m not engineer so I have no idea if this is true, I’m just relaying what one of the bike designers at the show said to me.

LT266: from my amateur eyes, this looks like a really well-made frame.  Alisa from Longteng was at the show, and she told me that it’s made from a one piece monocoque mold, so they can achieve a higher degree of uniformity and quality control.  The tubes are more rounded than the LC017.  Interestingly, she told me that they are testing an unannounced frame, the LT301, I’m posting the geometry and a short video here: https://imgur.com/a/XvH327j.  It looks to have a more aero profile than the LT266 and LC017 but still weighs under 1000g.  Alisa said they just finished testing the 54cm frame, and are going through tests for the other sizes – it will be a few months before they start selling it, although if anyone wants a 54, it’s available if you contact Alisa directly.  (OT: I asked which brands Longteng acts as OEM for, the only thing I could get out of Alisa was that they make a few frames for Argon.)

Does this help with my bike choice?  I probably will go with one of these and not the Velobuild frames, since I’ve seen and touched them in person.  Between the LC017 and LT266?  I have no idea….

That’s all I have, cheers.

March 07, 2024, 01:25:48 AM
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Re: Lightcarbon: New LCR017-D (or Yishun R1058-D) Unless the bike is dedicated aero bike, square-ish down tube is fine. Cannondale SuperSix Evo 4 has square downtube as well, yet with Cannondale's own 50mm wheels and 2 piece handlebar it is on par or better with quite a few dedicated aero bikes.
March 08, 2024, 05:04:17 AM
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Re: VeloBuild VB-R-268 frame Just ordered this frame to do a build for my girlfriend.

Velobuild 268 (in glossy pearl white, because of the incredible pictures shared earlier)
Complete Shimano 105 mechanical 12 speed groupset
Elitewheels ENT disc 38mm x 28mm wheels
GP5000 28mm
TPU inner tubes

Quick question: only part lacking is finding a saddle. Any (scientific / structured) approach on finding one for her?

March 10, 2024, 10:03:48 AM
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Re: More Aero frame in direction of Merida Reacto? My long teng 268 looks quite similar. I've only done 1100km on it, but I love it so far. Building it was a breeze. Alisa was super friendly to deal with, and answered the million questions I had. 7.6kg in medium with aero and comfort everything.
And ofc, it doesn't hurt that it's cheap :)
I bought the bars separately because I wanted 36cm bars.

March 11, 2024, 04:27:52 AM
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Re: Lightcarbon: New LCR017-D (or Yishun R1058-D) I emailed LC last night regarding the super light version in size 56. They replied within 3 hours, which was a welcomed surprise. The sales rep was polite, detailed, and it was obvious she was well-informed. All the molds for each frame size are finished, however current production time for a size 56 is one month.

I'm not sure whether or not LC and I will be collaborating as far as video content goes, but the price and initial customer service experience is enough to make me wanna purchase a frameset regardless.

March 12, 2024, 10:24:26 AM
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Re: Lightcarbon: New LCR017-D (or Yishun R1058-D)
I emailed LC last night regarding the super light version in size 56. They replied within 3 hours, which was a welcomed surprise. The sales rep was polite, detailed, and it was obvious she was well-informed. All the molds for each frame size are finished, however current production time for a size 56 is one month.

I'm not sure whether or not LC and I will be collaborating as far as video content goes, but the price and initial customer service experience is enough to make me wanna purchase a frameset regardless.

I had the same experience with them I dealt with Wendy. Very helpful and patience selecting the parts. I ordered a 56 2 weeks ago. She said back then 54 was also available

March 13, 2024, 01:32:52 PM
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Re: VeloBuild VB-R-268 frame Good night

After 500 km with the bike, I can say that I am very satisfied.
I leave some photos of the final assembly

March 13, 2024, 05:35:54 PM
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Re: Stiff, Aero, Crit Bike
That tfsa has absolutely atrocious geometry, you don't want it. Bross will be selling overseas, available "soon", god knows what exactly soon means here.

It’s not too far off from my Tarmac SL7. The reach is a good bit shorter (12mm) but the stack and top tube length are similar. Wheelbase is 6mm shorter. Could probably make it work with a longer stem.

The Bross looks really nice but seems to be vaporware for now. Would be cool to see it come to the US but all I keep hearing is “coming soon.”

Edit: Ok, the reach is 15mm shorter. So maybe not the best.

The Spycle (Aeroad copy) or TTX38 (Foil copy) are probably leading the race right now. Geo looks good. T47 bottom bracket. Custom paint options.

March 19, 2024, 06:41:05 PM
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Re: dcrf26 frame - Scott Foil?
Any more long term reviews of this frame? Can pick one up for around $500 USD with the current AliEx sales. I want a stiff bike to race crits. Wondering if this will fit that bill.

2.500 km on mine. As much as I like this bike, I can't recommend this particular manufacturer - as in Sequel Sports. As I wrote in this thread earlier. User Frank and me we both had forks which looked very unclean inside and were not round in places. The RD cable exit port on my frame was very rough inside. Rough to the point that I had to properly go about in there with a file to put the cable through. The seller's reaction was very telling in that they didn't acknowledge the problem on neither Frank's frame nor mine, saying that all their frames were like that. So if you buy there, you're definitely taking a big gamble with regards to QC.

With all that said: I like the bike. I like the way it rides. I think it's plenty stiff. I think I answered that question already in the TT-X38 thread. We were all posting there for simplicitiy's sake, since it's the same frame. And if you want this frameset, I'd say rather buy it from Tan Tan. It seems their quality is more consistent. Though there are examples of this frame from Tan Tan where the upper headset bearing was sitting too loose.

March 20, 2024, 12:42:38 AM
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Re: Lightcarbon: New LCR017-D (or Yishun R1058-D) Hello everyone,

a short update on my experiences with the LCR017-D in combination with the Elite Edge 45 mm.

I have just returned from my 1-week training camp in Mallorca and after almost 1,000 km and thousands of meters of altitude, I am more than happy to have built this bike.
It just feels right and is a true all-rounder.
At the front in the wind in the group on the flat - up the mountains - down the mountains. There is nothing to complain about.

Here are a few pictures from Mallorca.

March 21, 2024, 02:58:18 AM
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