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Re: VeloBuild VB-R-268 frame Hi Everyone!

New to the forum but I have been following many builds and decided to try it myself.
I have purchased the 268 frame too - it should be on it's way and arrive the coming weeks.
Chris has been very helpful with my requests, but it seems that the frame has been sent with a matte finish rather than satin as requested. Chris is helpful in trying to find a solution.

I will certainly drill a hole in bottom too! ;)

I have the most "respect" for the internal cable routing and the bleeding of the brakes, guess I will watch some youtube videos to get it right!

For the parts, I will be running a mechanical 11speed 105 groupset, Ican Alpha 40 Pro wheels with 30mm Schwalbe Pro tires.

Will post some pictures as soon as I get the frame!


January 23, 2024, 01:40:39 PM
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Re: Recommendations for a carbon saddle? I have this one with the carbon base, I got it when it was pretty new and paid more for it than it sells for now. It's honestly the most comfortable saddle I've ever had.
https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_Dlkone5

January 25, 2024, 12:18:34 PM
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Re: Yellowed carbon rim How old is it? Maybe the resin or clearcoat is yellowing from the sun?
January 26, 2024, 01:15:53 AM
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Panniers, Bike Bags, Stuff sacks, and Saddle bags I want to get a dedicated thread going to review and discuss available carrying of your gear for Bikepacking, Adventure cycling and Bicycle touring.   I want to keep this thread to items that are used to carrry your gear on your long multiday rides.   - Panniers, Bike bags, Stuff sacks and saddle bags.    Aliexpress lists and sells a lot of different items in this category.   I am always looking for the lightest, most durable, perhaps water proof, and best bang for the buck.   

For this years planned trips, I am trying to remove more weight and am looking for the lightest durable gear packs I can find on Aliexpress.   (Perhaps other brands outside Aliexpress, if they are affordable.)

I am hoping other forum members will have some good recommendations for bags you have purchased and used.

I purchased a set of Rhinowalk panniers over a year ago.  They have held up OK, on 3, week+ trips, but they are already showing signs of wear, and are having issues. 

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/2251832858229989.html

I purchased and use one of these NEWBOLER saddlebags for overnight trips.

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/2251832636637212.html

I have purchased numerous sacks off of Ali express.

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/2251832771567611.html

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805087053087.html

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805093049693.html







January 26, 2024, 02:07:34 PM
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Re: WheelTop EDS TX Full Wireless Groupset (Chinese SRAM) I’ve gone ahead and purchased a wheeltop EDS for my new gravel build, wish me luck.

Light carbon LCG073-D
Wheeltop
Zipp303S

January 26, 2024, 10:11:25 PM
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Re: VeloBuild VB-R-268 frame I received the frame yesterday and it was shipped to Germany within 10 days. That was really fast. I did a first inspection and the quality seems to be very good. However, a final verdict is still pending as you can only really say something about the quality when you build the frame and ride it. This will happen in the next days and weeks.

I can confirm that the tire clearance is 32mm. Probably even wider tires will fit without problems.

I have a first small problem with the mounting of the rear thru axle. I had to re-cut the thread there. A small thing, but it has to be mentioned.

I'll get back to you as soon as I have more details and will send photos and weights.


January 27, 2024, 01:09:09 PM
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Re: VeloBuild VB-R-268 frame Got my 268 frame last week before going out of town and just started working on it last night. Didn't plan on drilling a drain hole in the BB but after taking the BB out of my 177 it was clear that I needed one. Checked with VB just to be sure it would be ok and then confirmed it was. Drilled a small hole into the frame and carrying on with the build.
January 29, 2024, 10:41:04 AM
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Re: Elitewheels Drive 50D --> Rim Failure UPDATE (Day 22) - The nipples and rim tape arrived today. Dropping off at my wheel builder tomorrow.  Will also have him inspect the front wheel.
January 29, 2024, 08:27:33 PM
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Re: Patty's Long Rant and Guide To Affordable Frames I'm going to be brutally honest here as well.

I'm likely one of the "super experienced members" you mentioned.
For about a decade, I've been assembling frames and wheels directly from China.
My journey began with discovering groups like MTBR, iPlay, Pieter, etc., and eventually led me to chinertown.com
Infinite thanks and love to Sitar_Ned!!
I hope my contributions have helped build this fantastic forum and gave something back from what I learned here.

I'm fortunate to have a well-paying job that allows me to build bikes for friends and family as a hobby, at no cost to them.
My goal is to provide them with great bikes at fair prices and to make them happy.

I'm historically particularly biased towards Carbonda and Lightbicycle, brands that you amusingly never mention.
This isn't because they pay me (they don't). It's because, among all the providers I've tested, they have never let me down.
Their products are neither the cheapest nor overly expensive.
Moreover, if anything goes wrong, their customer support surpasses that of any Western brand I've dealt with.

I understand that some people, like Trace Velo, Joe, to some extent Hambini, many others, maybe you, chasing followers to carve out a living on YouTube and social media.

However, this has turned on the marketing machine around here.
No-name frames are suddenly sub par, while stickered frames selling at double the price, or even worse, branded frames are the real deal.
Persuading folks they need some stiffness and aero benefits only pros might need.
And it works! People are seeking broader validation and rely on branded visuals to reassure themselves they're not making a misguided decision.

It doesn’t bother me people trying do their thing on YouTube and elsewhere.
But your arrival here has sadly contributed unintentionally to the spoiling of the pristine wilderness that Chinertown once was  :'(

January 31, 2024, 05:19:05 AM
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Re: Patty's Long Rant and Guide To Affordable Frames
I'm going to be brutally honest here as well.

I'm likely one of the "super experienced members" you mentioned.
For about a decade, I've been assembling frames and wheels directly from China.
My journey began with discovering groups like MTBR, iPlay, Pieter, etc., and eventually led me to chinertown.com
Infinite thanks and love to Sitar_Ned!!
I hope my contributions have helped build this fantastic forum and gave something back from what I learned here.

I'm fortunate to have a well-paying job that allows me to build bikes for friends and family as a hobby, at no cost to them.
My goal is to provide them with great bikes at fair prices and to make them happy.

I'm historically particularly biased towards Carbonda and Lightbicycle, brands that you amusingly never mention.
This isn't because they pay me (they don't). It's because, among all the providers I've tested, they have never let me down.
Their products are neither the cheapest nor overly expensive.
Moreover, if anything goes wrong, their customer support surpasses that of any Western brand I've dealt with.

I understand that some people, like Trace Velo, Joe, to some extent Hambini, many others, maybe you, chasing followers to carve out a living on YouTube and social media.

However, this has turned on the marketing machine around here.
No-name frames are suddenly sub par, while stickered frames selling at double the price, or even worse, branded frames are the real deal.
Persuading folks they need some stiffness and aero benefits only pros might need.
And it works! People are seeking broader validation and rely on branded visuals to reassure themselves they're not making a misguided decision.

It doesn’t bother me people trying do their thing on YouTube and elsewhere.
But your arrival here has sadly contributed unintentionally to the spoiling of the pristine wilderness that Chinertown once was  :'(
This is unfair and kind of wrong IMO.

1, Pat does not make a living off of YT. I know first hand what YT pays creators. His channel is def a labor of love.
2, some of Pat's recommended frames are exactly the kind of no name brands you claim influencers dunk on.
3, even if YT influencers were as bad as you claim (which they aren't), they have no material effect on you. Carbonda & Light Bicycle still exist (and Light Bicycle is a brand Peak Torque loves). So you can keep buying and building their stuff, and enjoying their products and service no differently than before
4, Chinese bike stuff was going to get more popular and mainstream w/o influencers. The Chinese bike industry WANTS to grow and become mainstream. Them offering high quality stuff at great pricing was going to make them popular no matter what. So the growth of the industry as well as popularity was a foregone conclusion as long as the product and service provided satisfactory value.

I feel like you are unhappy that Chinese bikes aren't a secret anymore.... IDK, on one hand they kind of never were- the long existence and growing popularity of this forum is proof of that. But on the other hand, they still are- I'd wager the average road cyclist doesn't know much about Chinese bike brands outside the fact that they exist. I'm really not sure what your issue is or why people like Pat are to blame  :-\

January 31, 2024, 09:49:19 AM
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