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Re: Speeder SC-R48 LoL can we just take a moment to admire and applaud all the options we currently have in 2022 from these Far East factories?

How long do you think we will see this trend until the Chinese bike market bubble pops? Or when they start charging big name prices haha?

February 23, 2022, 10:29:38 AM
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Re: Velo Build R-099 Build Chris has confirmed that the unit price for the seatpost themselves will be $30, and new orders for the frameset will include it if preferred.  I think that's cheap enough not to bother asking for a discount.  I'd assumed they'd be nearly double that.
February 26, 2022, 02:31:58 AM
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Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame More than 2mil kms.. I can’t be more happy. The bike is performing very well.
Size 58, saddle heigh 79cm.

February 27, 2022, 03:48:44 PM
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Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame hi, dumb question, ordered the 168 frame and wheels. does the frame come with spacers and bearings for the fork and headset or was I supposed to add that to the order as well?
March 01, 2022, 12:28:28 AM
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Re: Velo Build R-099 Build Hi everyone,
joined this forum end of 2021 when I was looking for information on velobuild. After reading through this forum and checking with Chris I decided to order a VB-R-099. The build is completed in the meantime and waiting for spring to arrive so I can take the bike on the road. Reason I chose the VB-R-099 were integrated cable routing and available frame size option 58. I am 1.95 m tall with 96 cm in seam length, typically ride a 86 cm saddle to bottom bracket length and something like 10 to 13 cm saddle to stem drop.

Wanted to share my bike and a few experiences, with my theme being inspired by Chinertown I decided to use a Sensah Empire Pro shifting set, a Juin Tech F1 brake and 50mm deep Elite wheels. I also opted for the separated bar and stem combo since I was not sure regarding the integrated bar shape and I wanted the freedom to swap either stem or bar. This has been noted before in the forum, I ordered a 120mm stem but when I measure what I received it is more a 125mm or even a 130mm the way we measure stems here in Germany.

With all mechanical shifting and brake I struggled quite a bit with the internal cable routing. Tried to use compressionless cable housing first, but struggled big time to route the housing, especially from the bar into the stem and run cables through it. Swapped the compressionless KEB-SL housing with standard Shimano brake housing, which was easier to be routed through the bar and the stem into the frame. When installing cables into the housing it worked, but operation was not perfectly smooth. Therefore I decided to swap the velobuild spacers with a common set you can buy from Aliexpress. You will either have to cut the bottom spacer or fill it with epoxy so it becomes a plain surface that can sit flush with the ¾ ring of the top headset bearing. I also cut out the top spacer so I could run the cables from underneath the steam into the spacer. I understand this is not a perfect internal cable routing, but it eases setup and enables cable routing and smooth operation of brakes and shifting and I am satisifed with the result.

I am attaching a few pictures of the build and the cable routing. Since my camera is struggling with the different shades of red I am also posting the custom paint link on the velobuild homepage.
http://www.velobuildmall.com/products/vb-r-099-custom-paint-aero-road-carbon-bike-frame-red-fading-glossy-paint

A final comment: I found it strange, that the front axle is fixed from the drive train side rather than from the non-drive train side. Also, the 130mm axle that was shipped with the frame was a bit long and stood out quite significant on the brake side. I ordered a shorter set from Aliexpress which leaves less excess thread being visible once the front wheel is fastened with the axle.

Oh, almost forgot: tried to fit a Specialized seatpost cover because I read in this forum people have successfully done that. Can anybody confirm? My VB-R-099 seatpost is shaped thicker at the front and smaller at the tail, Specialized seatposts seem to be the other way round hence the cover would not fit a VB-R-099?

March 01, 2022, 02:22:32 AM
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Re: Velobuild VB-R-177
Well, just patlien1 sold another blurple 177, stoked to jam some 32s on it!

Wicked! Can't wait to see the build!

March 02, 2022, 03:49:36 PM
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Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame The bike finally out on its first ride!
95% done, only need to add some bartape and do some final adjustments.
Haven't weighted it yet but it's close to 7.5-8kg I think.
-Lightbicycles ar46 wheels with Sapem spokes and carbon ti hubs.
-ultegra r8100 12sp 52-36/34-11 172.5
-conti gp5000s tl

The bike just feels fast. I'm not used to this type of fast. I come from a 10yo Isaac Pascal with mixed and matched groupset.
This is next level. I'm still kinda getting used to the stiffness and the changes this brings with cornering but that's just a matter of time.

Overall very happy with the build. It wasn't easy but it was my first time building a whole bike with DI2 and hydrolic brakes.

March 04, 2022, 03:07:15 PM
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Re: Any chinese frames using high modulus carbon like the real Specialized frames? The upcoming Elilee Blize will have an ultralight 680g variant constructed from a mixture of Toray T1100 and M40X. You also have the Dizo Epic Pro which is constructed from Mitsubishi MR70 and Dyneema. These two won't be cheap and they certainly won't they sit at that 2-3K US sweetspot. According to Elilee, T1100 costs 5x of T800 and M40X costs 10x of T800...you do the math. For reference Elilee's top level EVO XXE triathlon frame retailed at around 4.5K US in China. Finally you have the not-as-high-end Pardus Robin Evo that employs a mixture of T1100, T800 and M40 for its carbon layup.

Do note that carbon supply is massively constrained worldwide which means that there is next to no excess material left for no name brands. Since imported material is hard to come by and there are actually export restrictions placed on top level T1100 due to military applications, most open mould makers source their material from Sinofibers who produce T1000 and T800 domestically in China. Sinofibers has small batch T1100 & M40X equivalent material (ZT9 & ZM40X) on top of their recently commercialised T1000 but currently only T800 (ZT8) is mass produced and readily available. Besides Sinofibers, Tianshun produce T800 equivalent material (TS800) and are also working on their own T1000.

March 05, 2022, 12:30:47 AM
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Re: Chinese hydraulic brake hose Yeah , works fine, not the exact one you linked , but I've had 2 x 3m come over the last year and all on bikes now working fine and half the price :)
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32825433906.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.0.0.21ef1802FUrVTj

March 06, 2022, 04:22:40 PM
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Re: Chinese hydraulic brake hose I've never tried these 3rd party hoses before but make sure you use BH90 even in applications that call for BH59. I used BH90 hoses on an old RS505 build and braking power was massively improved compared to the stock BH59 hoses it came with.
March 06, 2022, 05:03:27 PM
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