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Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
Is it a stem provided by Velobuild ?
Is it carbon and did you weight it ?
Yes, velobuild provides stem+handlebar.
In my case, stem 110mm 175g and handlebar 440mm 260g.

November 18, 2021, 08:41:14 AM
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Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
Hi everyone,
I would like to replace the screws of this brakes by titanium screws:
https://a.aliexpress.com/_uJeTee

Could someone please tell me how long should be the M6 brake's screws? I don't have access to my bike now to check.

I've replaced most of my bolts with black Ti ones, what you need is:

Steerer Clamp Bolt   M5 x 18mm   x2
Steerer Clamp Bolt   M5 Washer   x2
Front Brake bolt   M5 x 16mm   x2
Front Brake washer   M5 Washer   x2
Rear Brake bolt   M5 x 35mm   x2
Rear Brake washer   M5 Washer   x2
Seat post bolt   M6 x 30mm   x1
Seat post nut   M6 x 20mm   x1
Seat post nut   M6 x 13mm   x1
Seat post bolt   M6 x 35mm   x1
Computer MountBolt   M4 x 25mm   x2
Computer MountBolt   M4 Washer   x2

Hope this helps.

December 10, 2021, 08:23:04 AM
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Re: My Dengfu R12 - First Impressions and Video Cool!
Thanks for sharing.
You have an awesome collection. I'm looking into the vb-r-177. Looking to know how yours goes.
Awesome video btw.

December 13, 2021, 10:30:38 AM
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Re: My Dengfu R12 - First Impressions and Video
For some reason...the forum can't/won't load my YouTube URL. My apologies if this is against the rules.
Here is the title of the video: I May Have A Problem - Dengfu R12 First Look

A couple of other thoughts:
1. This was my first time building up a hydraulic disc brake frameset. It absolutely was AWFUL and thankfully all the learning lessons means that I could probably build my next disc bike in a single day....rather than over four days  :o

2. What took the longest during the process was undoubtably routing the cables and bleeding the brakes. And that's including using the Park Took internal cable routing guide tools as well as a legitimate brake bleed kit. While routing from the calipers to the lever is easier...next time I'd rather start from the levers. I initially had some brake oil leak from the levers so I'd rather have that setup properly first.

3. Having now built 3 bikes in the span of just over one year, I've learned that you really have to take your time. Watch as many YouTube tutorials as you can and don't skip or fast forward like I did haha. I originally overlooked the "burping" of the levers by tilting the bike up/down at 45 degree angles.

I'll upload a couple of finished photos later today.

Thanks for sharing your videos! I think I might have watched your PRO Stealth review awhile back before pulling the trigger on a practically new PRO Stealth carbon on EBAY for $100.

Definitely a learning curve with any bike build, but Chinese open mould frames are super special. I've also built up 3 separate frames since COVID, but I've rebuilt my Chinese frame at least three times, not including cable and hose changes which practically require a entire rebuild. Does get easier each time. The problem with disc brakes is that the routing issues make the brake bleeding much more complicated. What you think may be a bleeding problem is just a hose that's pinched somewhere because of all the 90 degree bends and choke points from the levers through the headt tube.

December 13, 2021, 01:36:24 PM
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Re: My Dengfu R12 - First Impressions and Video Subscribed!
December 14, 2021, 02:32:49 PM
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Re: My Dengfu R12 - First Impressions and Video
And here is the final build.

The decals/logo are my own design and I painted the frame at home myself: 3 coats of Dupi-Color Special Effex metallic paint and 3 coats of Spray Max 2K clearcoat. Wanted a little sparkle and protection while maintaining the "raw carbon" showing through.

The Hyper 65 wheels are intended for my Winspace T1500, but these will do until my other wheels arrive.

7.8kg without the PowerTap P2 pedals

SOOO GOOD

December 15, 2021, 11:00:39 AM
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Re: My Dengfu R12 - First Impressions and Video It's beautiful! I bet it's even better looking in person.


Did you polish the clear coat? I'm debating whether or not to do that when I paint my frame. Part of me wants to, but the more pessimistic part says it will just get scratched up before long anyways when I ride offroad.


December 15, 2021, 01:39:09 PM
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Re: My Dengfu R12 - First Impressions and Video Finished bike looks super sick!
I'm an R12 owner myself too.

December 15, 2021, 02:18:13 PM
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Re: My Dengfu R12 - First Impressions and Video I'm liking it a lot!
I have no comparison to other "modern" bikes tho, so I'd be interested about your opinion comparing it to the other 3 chinese carbon frames.

Still haven't got any good photos of it yet.


December 15, 2021, 09:29:54 PM
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Re: My Dengfu R12 - First Impressions and Video
I'm building the 177 as I type this LoL. So far there are tangible differences between my Dengfu R12 and VeloBuild 177:

1. The EPS latex molding that VeloBuild uses on the 177 makes a HUGE difference when routing cables though the frame. No rough edges for the cables to catch on.

2. Velobuild seems to have put more "thought and care" into frame accessibility for cable management.

3. Paint quality is good although no real world tests yet obviously. Granted I did paint my Dengfu at home, but the VeloBuild paint is obviously better.

4. Overall VeloBuild paid more attention to smaller details. Dealing with them felt more like they were actually bike enthusiasts rather than just a company wanting to sell me a generic frame.

My first impressions video on the 177 will be later this week. I'll keep everyone posted

Thank you for committing your time and money into showcasing these internet darling independent bike brands. I think we're headed to a new golden age in cycling where there is more transparency in bike technology and less dependence on bike retailers.

December 20, 2021, 12:09:25 PM
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