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Re: Groupset News To add to what acedeuce802 stated... RD's are also spec'd w/ a min cog size. I'd be cautious of using an 11t min cog spec RD with a 9t small cog unless you have prior knowledge of it working. In some cases an after market cage can be swapped onto a given RD to make it work with particular cassettes.   


Total capacity refers to the amount of slack the cage can take up.  For a 1x, it's max vs min cog, a 9-46t would need 37t capacity.  For a 2x example, an 11-32t with 50/34 chainrings would need (32-11)+(50-34) = (21)+(16) = 37t as well.  What you need to find out is the max cog size.  I would guess that since max cog size isn't listed (in the descriptions I looked up) and it's usually paired with 11-30t or 11-34t cassettes, that it's unlikely to work well with a 46t max cog.  I would rather find a rear derailleur with same pull ratio than use a big drop bracket.

October 02, 2022, 04:18:21 PM
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Re: Groupset News
To add to what acedeuce802 stated... RD's are also spec'd w/ a min cog size. I'd be cautious of using an 11t min cog spec RD with a 9t small cog unless you have prior knowledge of it working. In some cases an after market cage can be swapped onto a given RD to make it work with particular cassettes.
2 cogs are definitely a very small difference for derailleur to stop working properly. As an example from mtb world: Shimano Deore rd-m5100 (11 sp) and rd-m6100 (12 sp) are exactly the same derailleurs construction-wise, but first one is specified for 11-51 cassette, and second - for 10-51.

October 03, 2022, 04:15:32 AM
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Re: Tsunami Seaboard GR02 Budget Gravel Build The Seaboard frame comes with a carbon fiber fork: https://tsunamibicycle.com/product/gr02-gravel-frameset-alu-alloy-disc-brake-thru-axle-black/
October 04, 2022, 05:40:27 AM
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Re: Groupset News There's a bunch of news hiding in what looks like plain sight in Ltwoo's updated catalogue:

http://www.ltwoo.com/en/col.jsp?id=175

On the MTB side, there's a new 'T' series of shifters/derailleurs with clutch rear derailleurs. These are across the range, going from 8-13 speed. There's also the semi-electronic shifters as has already been shown.





For gravel, there's the new shifter shape available in 1x12, with brake calipers (as has been leaked previously). There's also a new rear derailleur with a clutch that comes over from the MTB line, but has been redesigned to take a barrel adjuster which is across the range from 9-12 speed. All other components remain the same.



On the road, the new shifters are available in a 2x12 version, with aluminium or carbon blades.



No separate brake caliper listed so I assume it's the same as the gravel one. No other new road components, and the new lever shape is only seen on the 2x12 hydraulic content, everything else remains the same.

October 05, 2022, 05:04:59 AM
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Re: Groupset News S-Ride are also working on hydraulic drop levers


unsure if they plan to go into Road 2x or if it is just meant to pair with their 1x gravel RD

October 05, 2022, 05:08:37 AM
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Re: Groupset News Why can they just do a di2 meets sram style shifters. wired  and wireless. I mean if you have a swappable battery box you can easily add on a wired function.  Just in case. and the you still need wireless connectivity for computers. Its literally just a wireless protocol.   You can also have like and I2c or serial connection via wire.  All which run a servo to push pull in changing gears.  One could literally build a basic system with like a stm32 chip. linear servo. I really don't know why shimano's and srams systems are sooooo over priced.and why chinese companies dont have a system out yet.   Like the parts needed are maybe $30 worth of electronics. at the very most. I dont know how they are $1500 over the standard groupset.

Anyways I cant wait for cheaper chinese groupsets.

October 05, 2022, 06:12:03 AM
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It's been 5 years.. I built four road bikes from Chinese carbon frames between 2017 & 2019.
All of them purchased on eBay with free shipping to USA.

The first one was sent the wrong frame size to me, filed a dispute and got to keep the frameset for free.
After completing the build and test riding it for few weeks,
I sold it to a neighbor who actually fits on it better than me. He's been riding it ever since, with close to 2k miles pedaled.


The replacement frame was sent the proper size that I ordered.
Built up in 2019 and been my all around riding.


Third frame was aero road frame, cable routing was PITA with the handlebar, only wish it had disc brakes.


Last build was a TT frameset, built up with wireless shifting.

All of them have been ridden regularly.
I don't ride nearly as much as I used to since 2020, but still very fun bikes to ride.

October 05, 2022, 08:38:02 AM
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Re: Groupset News
There's a bunch of news hiding in what looks like plain sight in Ltwoo's updated catalogue:

http://www.ltwoo.com/en/col.jsp?id=175

On the MTB side, there's a new 'T' series of shifters/derailleurs with clutch rear derailleurs. These are across the range, going from 8-13 speed. There's also the semi-electronic shifters as has already been shown.





For gravel, there's the new shifter shape available in 1x12, with brake calipers (as has been leaked previously). There's also a new rear derailleur with a clutch that comes over from the MTB line, but has been redesigned to take a barrel adjuster which is across the range from 9-12 speed. All other components remain the same.



On the road, the new shifters are available in a 2x12 version, with aluminium or carbon blades.



No separate brake caliper listed so I assume it's the same as the gravel one. No other new road components, and the new lever shape is only seen on the 2x12 hydraulic content, everything else remains the same.

Can't wait to see when this becomes available and the pricing.

October 05, 2022, 10:43:00 AM
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Re: Groupset News Well...looks like I have to reconfigure the gravel build I've been budgeting for. These are exciting developments. Hoping that clutch is an actual clutch.


October 05, 2022, 11:09:27 AM
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Re: Groupset News
Well...looks like I have to reconfigure the gravel build I've been budgeting for. These are exciting developments. Hoping that clutch is an actual clutch.

I'm in the same boat as you. I'm building a gravel bike now and the LTwoo gravel groupset looks really compelling, hydraulic brakes and a clutch on the rear derailleur would be wonderful.

October 05, 2022, 02:04:58 PM
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