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Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
Quote from: OlieSimpson on August 19, 2021, 02:53:33 AM
Did you manage to internally route the cables using your handlebar?

hi
i discussed it with my mechanic, and tomorrow will show you the result.
planning to drill the steel spacer but going to buy hard plasctic one from the aliexpress which weight less
the one which comes w the frame is quite heavy
August 19, 2021, 08:49:19 AM 		1
Re: Velo Build R-099 Build For those who are interested, I've added an update on my experience with the VeloBuild (099) here:
https://roadmeister.cc/update-1000km/
August 25, 2021, 05:57:02 AM 		1
Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame Finally finished my build, and of course it a rainy day  ;D

After a couple of rides I'll give some impressions and specs, with some better pictures.


August 27, 2021, 01:54:38 AM 		1
Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
Quote from: GilardiRT on August 27, 2021, 04:00:55 AM
I ordered 56 with 420/100 handlebar, I am 183cm with 88.5cm inseam, hope it's gonna fit well

58 would almost certainly have been to long.

Reach is almost non-adjustable. You can slide you seat back a forth a bit but its the wrong way of doing it. The only real solution is a new handlebar. 

Stack is more flexible with spacers. You can start high and remove a few over time if you feel more confident.

Im pretty sure 56 was the right choice.
August 27, 2021, 04:36:41 AM 		1
Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
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That's pretty cool, who sells those?

https://www.tnc-hamburg.com/TNC-Shop/Naben/DT-Swiss-Naben/DT-Swiss-Ersatzteile/DT-Swiss-RWS-Plug-In-Ersatzhebel--47179.html?gclid=Cj0KCQjwvaeJBhCvARIsABgTDM4-tWjpY5MR5dew4UsIyt_51-h3UW-b7cl8ZflkhXvOQjrP_6Zht6YaAhjyEALw_wcB
August 28, 2021, 02:42:23 AM 		1
Re: Forum name? Huh. Well, I have to be honest, I did not see that coming at all. It never once occurred to me that someone could potentially be offended by the forum's name.

First of all, I want to say that as adriaanm said, we can certainly talk about these things and ask these questions if it is on the minds of the community, and there's only one person that can address this and that would be me, so I'll try my best to communicate fully, clearly, and honestly.

I came up with the name "Chinertown" myself while researching my first chiner build. Users on other forums had already coined the term "chiner" as a play on words combining 29er bikes and Chinese carbon bikes. I just took it one step further and combined "chiner" with "Chinatown". There was never any negative racial element to it whatsoever. In fact, I think if you look at the functionality of the forum then it would be hard to argue otherwise. The forum facilitates commerce with China and other Asian countries. It directly benefits Asian entrepreneurs. I realize that could be separated out from the meaning of the name, but I do think it's something to factor into the equation.

I'll also say that in regards to the responses that were interpreted as "you're wrong, get out of here" that I don't really think they mean for you specifically to get out of here and those very same users would likely help you out in any way that they could if you asked. I can empathize with where they are coming from just as I can empathize with where you are coming from. It just seems like everything gets so politicized these days and getting online and being a part of a community that you share like interests with can be an escape from that. So when it creeps in people may have a tendency to want to push it out. That said, we should definitely be able to talk about these things.

I try to keep a very "libertarian" approach to the forum and never want anyone here to feel as though the conversation is being censored, controlled, or directed in ways suited to the ideals or goals of one or a group of individuals. I've been a member of forums that I really enjoyed that went south for those reasons and it's always such a bummer when that happens. If you notice, you can edit your posts for an indefinite amount of time. If you want to come back 5 years later and either delete or edit your posts, you're free to do so. Most forums don't allow that as it leaves room for spam and it's also not good for Google rankings. Say someone starts a thread and makes a long post with the right keywords and that topic starts showing up in Google and bringing traffic to the forum.. and that person decides to come back a year later and edit the post and possibly removes the specific keywords. Well, that would likely mean that post would lose its spot in the Google rankings, and forum growth would take a small hit. We leave editing control to you so that each community member can keep control of their own words and never cedes it fully to the forum. I say that to illustrate that it's important to me that users feel comfortable in saying and discussing whatever they choose so long as (like it says in the very description of this board) it isn't derogatory or offensive. You were neither, and you were thoughtful and respectful, so thanks for that, and please do feel free to discuss what you think is important, but also understand that others are free to tell you if they don't like it. It goes both ways.

Lastly, and I say this with respect, but the name will absolutely not be changed. Not only would that be a technical nightmare (this is a 7-year-old .com domain name and that has value in various ways) but it would also be against community ideals IMO. Just as you are free to do and say as you wish so long as you are respectful and have good intent... so am I. I know for a fact there are no negative racial implications to the forum name whatsoever and therefore it would be wrong to change it based on others' incorrect interpretations.

Now.. I'll be honest, if someone does find it offensive... that does bother me and kinda hurts my feelings a bit as I would never want to offend people in that way. I love people, I love the internet, and I love online communities, and I'm also somewhat of a people pleaser so I really hope that if anyone has that initial first impression, that they will keep an open mind and judge the forum, myself, and the community for their actions.

I hope that sheds some light on things for you or anyone else that may question this. If you are going to be part of an online community, I think you have every right to question the integrity of those involved. I hope you'll stick around and please feel free to hit me up if you need anything.

Cheers,
Sitar_Ned
August 28, 2021, 01:37:28 PM 		1
Re: Forum name?
Quote from: hazzer19 on August 30, 2021, 10:54:43 AM
Thank you for for the very thorough and thoughtful response Sistar_Ned! It sounds like we share a lot of the same values. I hear everything you're saying and appreciate where it's coming from and your openness to have the conversation in a respectful way.

Personally I don't think I was ever offended by the name, it just got me thinking, so I wanted to get the conversation going in case others may be thinking the same or it got other thinking about that as well. I definitely didn't mean to point fingers at anyone either participating in the forum or those organizing it, so if it came across like that, apologies.

This seems like a really great space and I personally have gotten a lot of value from it, so for that thank you.

No need to apologize at all. It came across to me just as you intended it to, as an effort to start a conversation. I didn't feel you were pointing fingers at anyone. And you're very welcome. Thank you and all the other members for being a part of and contributing to this community.

But at least spell my name right man! ;D
August 30, 2021, 05:08:20 PM 		1
Re: Velobuild VB-R-177 Hey o/ first time posting here. I just finished my bike build and want to share some of my experience here. I wrote this review for the Velobuild website, but I'm pasting it here too. Hopefully that can be useful to someone else :)

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I've recently finished building my VB-R-177 (Size XS) with Shimano 105 hydraulic disc brake bike, Fulcrum Racing DB7 650b wheels and Schwalbe Pro One 28mm tubeless tyres. The bike is perfect for short people.

The frame came well packaged and in good condition. There were no visible marks or damage to the frame.

The frame, however, took a lot longer to be shipped than initially agreed on. So, if you're in a hurry, this may not be the frame for you.

With that being said, the frame is really good and I was impressed. The quality of the carbon seems good with no sharp bits inside. The paint job was on point and exactly how I specified it to be. The frame came with almost (more about it below) everything you need to build it other than the groupset, cables and things you expect to not come with a frame.

I said the frame came with almost all parts because after assembling the headset, the handlebar were not turning smoothly. I had to buy some very thin (0.4mm) spacers to go between the top headset bearing and the compression ring to lift the headset a little bit and don't scrape the frame. Other than that, the build went without any issues.

For the integrated cockpit and fully integrated cables, I do recommend having a cable routing tool. I also used a small file to open some internal holes in the handlebar because the hydraulic hose and the shifter cables were too big for it. As long as you're patience, and route the cables through the handlebar FIRST before putting it on the bike, you should be OK. No, really, route your cables in the handlebar before assembling it to the bike, trust me on this. Think it through. This order is not the same as a more "traditional" bike build.

Tip: If you're buying a shifting cable set, make sure you buy one with a very long cable. In this bike, the outer housings goes all the way from the shifter until the derailler.

Tip2: You can buy silicone seatpost rings that will make the transition between the seatpost and frame a lot nicer, and prevent water ingress.

After going through the pain of routing the fully integrated cables I think the end result is worth it. The bike looks amazing. It's very light (between 7-8kg) even though I didn't buy any weight savings components.

I recently finished a 120km ride and the bike had no issues.
September 06, 2021, 03:37:14 PM 		1
jstrawks' Carbonda CFR-1056 build thread I'm going to document my build.

Here are some weights, and a shot of the frame on the build stand.

This will be a slow build because my groupset is on back order till Christmas, my wheels and tires haven't arrived, and I may not decide on a stem length till the last.
September 11, 2021, 12:20:58 PM 		1
Re: ceramic OSPW and BBs! Best bet with all the OSPW are to not bother if they are cheap. The bearings are usually unsealed and any benefit that was there is gone in the first few kms. Shifting performance of the Taobao OSPW are horrible vs stock/ceramic speed.

Waste of money.
September 14, 2021, 12:42:25 AM 		1