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Re: Picking frame for "race commuter" Yishunbikes G095D Speed Gravel might a solid candidate.
I don't have any personal experiences with that frame, just eyeing it for a while. But I've only heard good things about Yishunbike.
We have a topic on that frame here:
https://chinertown.com/index.php/topic,4283.0.html
The manufacturer site for the frame:
https://www.yishunbike.com/product/g095dspeed-gravel/

My next speedy all-weather commuter bike with convenience items like fenders and proper lights will probably be a Workswell WCB-R-358. It has some nice details, like the fender boss at the top inside of the fork arch.
Unfortunately it's a bit heavy. A 54 frame is 1200g, fork 490g, seatpost 180g. With a nice set of fenders weighting 500g, I'm not sure if 150g extra really makes a difference though.
https://chinertown.com/index.php/topic,4060.0.html
https://chinertown.com/index.php/topic,4138.0.html
https://www.workswellbikes.com/gravel/wcb-r-358.html

July 25, 2023, 04:20:34 PM
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Re: Lightcarbon LCG071-D Build For anyone looking for more reviews of this bike I can +1 on the quality of this frame.
It's not a race oriented ride (probably due to the longer chain stays) but it sure is comfortable, stable and good for longer rides.

Very well finished internally I shall add, size 56 weighs as follows:
Frame: 1010g
Fork: 436g (cut)
Seatpost: 184g
Handlebars: 424g (100x40)
GPS mount: 24g (wahoo)
Thru axles: 85g

July 30, 2023, 04:53:56 PM
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Re: Lightcarbon LCG071-D Build
this one comes the closest to the CruX in terms of geometry, and has one of the lowest weights for a gravel frame you can find as well. Despite the fact that the evidence is clear--with 2 independent reviewers confirming--that this is a bike that "feels slow", I have a hard time wrapping my mind around how that can be.

@GratiotGravel, are you running the same tires between bikes when making your speed/watts comparison?

Are both of you running big tires, generally speaking?

About the geometry (comparing Crux 56 vs LCG071 55), I'd say they are quite different if you're talking about the latest edition of the Crux. Save from the (probably) more complicated carbon layup the Crux also has 1.) 5mm shorter chain stays compared to the LCG071 which would contribute a lot to the perceived "sluggishness" of said bike in my experience. 2.) the Crux has 11mm longer reach which comes closer to a road bike which alters your position to become more aero and aggressive as well as giving your legs some more leverage. 3.) 20,6mm lower stack which could contribute to it feeling a bit more nimble out of saddle.

So summing it all up I think there are quite a few logical reasons for them being quite different bikes. And about the tire size I run the Vittoria Terreno Dry 38/40c tyres on all gravel bikes I test with a set of light Farsport wheels.

I'd look for a gravel bike with as short chain stays as possible where you can run your tires of choice combined with a rather long reach and fairly low stack. The Twitter Gravel V3 has really good geo but unfortunately does look a bit messy inside so can't vouch for the quality, runs great though, very responsive and fun ride. I haven't yet tried the Airwolf YFR068 but that looks quite interesting too (same chain stay length as the Open UP which has a really responsive rear albeit tends to loose grip a bit for various reasons).

Hope that's helpful :)

August 01, 2023, 12:12:14 PM
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Re: dcrf26 frame - Scott Foil? TanTan x38 Review is live.

Youtube Search: TanTan x38 Review - Aero Isn't Everything

August 14, 2023, 02:04:16 PM
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Re: LTWOO RX hydro sets
I've done a teardown of my broken LTWOO brifter to see what's inside. I have the part-1 video up right now on youtube. Interesting finds include that the hydraulic reservoir is a modular part that pops right out.

(What's inside a L-TWOO hydraulic lever? Teardown & anatomy of a failure)


I'm currently putting together a video demoing the rebuild and analyzing/explaining the shift mechanism (hopefully dropping this week), but the short of it is that the shift mechanism is pretty much identical in design to Campy Ultrashift (diagram attached). This is a bad thing IMO. Fundamentally, this is a friction shifter. To hold the cable in place, it uses a friction plate with indexing indents pushed up against the de-tensioning ratchet by a couple of spring washers. You adjust the friction with the screw in the back of the shifter. Shifting feels tough because you have to overcome the friction plate in addition to everything else. I also think it's not suitable for off-road use, where a bump can increase the tension on the cable and spontaneously advance the index, causing a mis-shift

It's more or less an exact copy of Campagnolo's Hydro Shifters internally. Having worked on the Campy shifters, I can say that even the modular hydro unit looks identical maybe except for a few minor details. I've been running Ultra Shift in many iterations and it has gotten better every time. The 12sp generation has super light and smooth action. If you can shift it comfortably in the drops very much depends on bar shape and hand size. I have no problem shifting these in the drops.
I've also never had issues with riding these offroad. Campy has been used by quite a few pros in CX back in the rim brake days. With all that said, I dunno what level of quality the LTWOO internals are. Copying stuff is one thing. Doing it well is another.

August 15, 2023, 12:59:25 AM
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Re: LTWOO RX hydro sets
I've done a teardown of my broken LTWOO brifter to see what's inside. I have the part-1 video up right now on youtube. Interesting finds include that the hydraulic reservoir is a modular part that pops right out.

(What's inside a L-TWOO hydraulic lever? Teardown & anatomy of a failure)



Appreciate the detailed teardown. That was an interesting look at their levers. Seems like it's worth waiting for some more fixes to be put in place.

August 15, 2023, 06:46:21 AM
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Re: LTWOO RX hydro sets
I've done a teardown of my broken LTWOO brifter to see what's inside. I have the part-1 video up right now on youtube. Interesting finds include that the hydraulic reservoir is a modular part that pops right out.

(What's inside a L-TWOO hydraulic lever? Teardown & anatomy of a failure)


I'm currently putting together a video demoing the rebuild and analyzing/explaining the shift mechanism (hopefully dropping this week), but the short of it is that the shift mechanism is pretty much identical in design to Campy Ultrashift (diagram attached). This is a bad thing IMO. Fundamentally, this is a friction shifter. To hold the cable in place, it uses a friction plate with indexing indents pushed up against the de-tensioning ratchet by a couple of spring washers. You adjust the friction with the screw in the back of the shifter. Shifting feels tough because you have to overcome the friction plate in addition to everything else. I also think it's not suitable for off-road use, where a bump can increase the tension on the cable and spontaneously advance the index, causing a mis-shift

Great teardown. Really insightful. I was a campy fan on my road bike, so I'm hopeful for how my GR9 will do longterm.

Also, did Pepper get any pets?! You left us hanging lol!

August 15, 2023, 02:10:18 PM
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Re: LTWOO RX hydro sets
Thanks for the feedback! I have never worked hands-on with Campy so I've only been able to go off of the material online, which admittedly is sparse, it's good to hear from someone with real-life experience on this.

I guess I'm still on the fence over if this is a "good" indexing design. On one hand (as you illustrate) Campy has a good track record with making it work well, even in off-road applications. On the other hand this friction system design is inherently a zero-sum compromise between shift-action-lightness and indexing security. Meanwhile, Shimano and SRAM's systems use mechanical interference to achieve indexing.

As far as off-road goes, it's worth noting that for Ekar, Campagnolo changed the thumb lever design a bit (L-TWOO's version is almost like a hybrid between the Ekar version and the original Ultrashift version) and it's a single-click only. I don't think this is a bad thing - over the years I've had 9/10 speed Campagnolo Chorus (with the multi-shift down) and 11 speed Potenza (single shift down, with the droopy thumb lever)

For reference - ultrashift levers (note higher thumb button):


Powershift levers (see lower thumb button):


Ekar levers (redesigned thumb button):


For what it's worth, I think the single-click Powershift levers with the lower thumb button are excellent - the improved ergonomics is worth the trade-off against being able to shift across multiple harder gears. I have found that on bumpy surfaces, the Ultrashift levers can sometimes have me going down two gears when I only intended to go down one. I suspect that's why Campagnolo may have taken that approach with Ekar.

August 15, 2023, 03:49:50 PM
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Re: Sava Dream Maker As far as I can tell the only bar is 42cm across all the sizes which tells you all you need to know about the thought put into the details around performance and fit. This is really a design showpiece more than a high performance aero design.

Regardless of the data being something that's easy or hard to interpret, i think pulling back the curtain a little and showing that a product was actually engineered with CFD and then that CFD was validated in a wind tunnel is critical to telling a believable story for a high performance aero bike. I think the Elilee Blize (the base version) is in the same price range and has done that whereas Sava has not.

August 17, 2023, 06:51:11 PM
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Re: Airwolf YFR068 - 2023 Gravel Frame Some pictures from head tube and bottom bracket area.
August 24, 2023, 04:08:16 PM
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