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Re: ZRace Disc Brakes
but in the context of sub-$50 USD brake they're quite good.

That’s the thing, $49 all in (for black color) is pretty good anyway you cut it. The Juin Techs are $150. Not sure of they are three times better than BR-05s?

December 02, 2022, 07:38:15 PM
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Re: Interesting Aliexpress finds! - good deals, interesting stuff, new products etc!
Definitely!
https://r2-bike.com/SHIMANO-Ultegra-XT-Chain-CN-HG701-11-speed-116-Links-with-Chain-Connector

Ah.. i read somewhere the 10 speed HG95 only comes with a pin. I got a refund anyway and will use the chain with while keeping a sharp eye on it and the rest of the drive train. Hopefully if it is fake it doesn't wreck anything.

Will be buying PYC chains from Ali for the next we while. They're about half the price of anything else local to me.

December 04, 2022, 07:04:59 AM
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Re: Interesting Aliexpress finds! - good deals, interesting stuff, new products etc!
Thanks all. The order has shipped after a considerable delay. I'll post a small review once it's here!

Update on Shimano Deore 12s mini groupset that I ordered. It reached to me today.

From what I can see, the shifter and RD look genuine Shimano with pretty high quality finish on both. No smudges, grease marks or dust at all. But absolutely no paperwork either - no manual, stickers nothing. Just thick plastic bag for each. The cable came attached to shifter and it's the Teflon coated type which makes me happy.

The chain is KMC X12 which also looks OG but I don't have reference chain from say REI or LBS. For now, it passes as genuine.

Finally the cassette which is riveted together almost 90% of cogs except the last two. Has an interesting red colored spider inside holding all together. Installed without any fuss but shift performance is strictly okay. Can't hold a candle to my well used Ultegra cassette on other build. Not even close to 105 cassette either.
I think that the machining is not precise and hoping that any sharp edges will be worn off with use and performance might improve? In any case it's not the best but it's not the worst either. It's on my now-converted-to-flatbar bike which will see occasional use.

Attaching pictures, just in case.

December 05, 2022, 02:52:16 PM
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Re: Groupset News Yeah, 510 for us here in the EU...
December 06, 2022, 10:07:12 AM
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Re: Groupset News I think the new rx has reach adjustment. I think it's like a 2mm screw on the front of the brake.  There is a rubber tab on the inside of the brake levers. It stops the shift lever from clattering but the lever does hang up on the rubber every so often.  This leaves the lever about 2-3mm unflush with the brake lever. I'm use to some texture on the shifter levelers.  They are very smooth other than the screen printed logo under the clear coat. 

The thumb shifter does take a firm push. I think it will be usable from the drops. The rubber hood feel nice and thick. Can see the mold seam and won't be felt.

Brakes have to use their adapters. there are 4 to choose from 140/160 and 160/180.  Tons of bolts. Compression bolt,olive and barb given.

My general feeling to the groupset is there are some very nicely done parts but I notice when there are corners cuts.

The front derailleur has cable guides.  Rear looks nice has a nicely done carbon front cage. There are two type of pulleys the lower one having a more wave design. Both derailleur still use cheaper materials and manufacturing.   

Haven't played with anything on a bike yet. I hope it does what I have planned.

Weights
Shifters 582g
Brakes with hoses and adapters 372g
Rear derailleur  218g
Front derailleur 108g

December 06, 2022, 05:09:29 PM
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Re: LTWOO RX hydro sets more pics

comparing ltwoo vs 105 5800 vs sensah srx. Can see how much smaller the spring is, it comes with oil on the spring vs the srx which is dry no lube.  See the pulleys used,how the hanger mounts, b screw length compared to SRX and has blue thread locker.

Front derailleur see the cable slot and loop(button) cable wraps around and the cable adjuster.

Right shifter reach adjustment on front of brake. behind shifter and brake has a rubber pad screw on. Side view of the right shifter

December 06, 2022, 11:31:43 PM
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Re: LTWOO RX hydro sets I have 2 plans yet I haven't decided. I have a gravel and a climber frame. I can get the climber under 6.8kg with this ltwoo groupset.  I'd really enjoy getting more range out of my gravel bike and having new brakes.

This was my first 12 speed set. I felt it pointless if it didn't add range.  It's a large cost increase to consider because cassettes are in the $40-50 for a 11-34 on a hg freehub. Any 9-10t cassette will cost $100+ plus needing a hd(r) freehub.

I will take apart the brakes to check pads today.   Will be nice if they match pads I have on hand. Id like to see how the egg roll heat coolers are fit.

December 07, 2022, 05:58:01 AM
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Re: LTWOO RX hydro sets
I'm curious, since the 12 speed cassette fits an 11 speed hub, is it possible to use an 11 speed RD with the 12 speed shifters? I'd love to keep my existing RD/FD setup and just swap out the shifters and cassette to save on cost.

Hope someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but the RD looks the same to me on both groups. I would imagine it works fine. Sensah probably uses the same RD for both 11 and 12 speed groups as well?
I haven't seen the shifters/brakes for sale on their own, though...I'd be interested in that as well.

December 07, 2022, 12:02:00 PM
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Re: LTWOO RX hydro sets StiffWeenies posted a video with a guy using a r7000 working with the rx 12 speed shifters and 12s cassette.  I will be swapping in my other rd's to see what works as well.  I want to see if the srx or ulterga rx can work. I was told the ltwoo gravel rd has a range of 11-52.  I want to see if 9 or 10 is possible and if the rx road rd can use a 36. I will throw on a 40t if there is enough room with the 36t cassette

I took the pads out of the brakes. I put in shimano style k03s and l02a pads. I doubt the shimano j0 models will work.

December 07, 2022, 12:39:01 PM
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