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Re: Yuanan Carbon fiber wheelsets Year end discount promotion Thank you, dear friends. We have 50 mm-60 mm depth carbon rims,21mm/22mm inner width, and 28/29mm outer width. And our new gravel wheelset YAG35-02 carbon wheelset is coming, the ultralight version is just 400g/rim.
March 02, 2024, 02:23:00 AM
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Re: VeloBuild VB-R-268 frame
Really looking forward to your review/opinions/paintjob.

Also, haven't heard of those wheels. Wondering whether they are worth € 500,00 over Elite Edge wheels in 50mm (just a small weight penalty, but a lot of extra money).
Same goes for the sadles, which seems heavier than the Ryet one. Any reason to go this route other than "because I can" (which is a good answer as well :) )

My previous two VeloBuild road builds I used both Elite Drive 45D (no longer in production) and FarSports EVO 4. While the Drive 45D are light, I didn't find them particularly stiff. The EVO 4s are stiff but still use 19mm internal rims which I have long moved away from. Nepest as a brand do a lot of things right. The fit/finish of the wheels and road dynamics feel very much OEM as expected. To me they feel closer to FarSports than Elite Drive.

Now regarding saddles, I don't like the shape nor length of the Ryet saddle. I've had great success both indoors and outdoors with my Bucklos saddles, and it's only 30g heavier than my S-Works Power saddle.

I'm not really going for a full weight weenie build with the 268. But I do suspect this build to give both my Tavelo and Giant Propel a run for their money in the weight department. We should be looking at 7.0-7.1kg without pedals/power meter/computer mount.

March 02, 2024, 08:51:11 AM
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New Chiner aero frame Early last week, my Chiner frame contact shared to me a good looking aero-ish frame, quiet aggressive geometry with decent weight which can consider light for aero frame.

I've pulled the trigger and decided to buy this one for my next project, all Chiner bike including Wheeltop EDS for groupset and Chiner wheelset (probably by Elitewheels or Pro X Carbon). Attached here some of the pictures provided to me.

I'll share more updates once the frame completed.

March 04, 2024, 04:25:49 AM
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Re: Yuanan Carbon fiber wheelsets Year end discount promotion Hey Guys, have a good day. Our New UNI carbon wheelset is coming. Starting at $4xx.The cost-effective wheelsets start at $200. The Gravel/3,4,5,6 spokes/disc/carbon-spoke wheelset has a new discount for the March Purchasing Festival。
March 05, 2024, 03:33:29 AM
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Re: Lightcarbon: New LCR017-D (or Yishun R1058-D)
Yes same on my side about the LCR017-D. The weight is super interesting but the Geo is a little bit to aggressive.
The R1058-D looks more relaxed but the SL Version is still not available...
Standard is to heavy with 1050g for frame if you want to build a up a bike for events with a lot of climbing and a long time in the saddle.

Anybody other proposals?

New member here - I also have the same dilemma, and will share my thoughts.

First, these are my filters/criteria:
-   I live in a hilly area, so I’d like to have an all-arounder, ideally with frame weight below 1000g
-   Somewhat aero, but I’ll be building up the bike with 40-45mm wheels which will speak more to aero advantages
-   I don’t race anymore but I still do fast group rides, so I’m looking for a frame with somewhat forgiving geometry – not quite upright like the Endurace but also not a crit bike
-   32mm tire clearance
-   Under US$1000 (which rules out Yoeleo, Winspeed, Seka, etc.)

The 017 hits most of these notes, and Lightcarbon also do pretty decent custom frame painting and decals.  But like you guys, I’m a bit hesitant about the long-ish reach.  The stack/reach ratio for a 52cm frame comes to 1.33, which I’ll use as the basis for comparison. 

Some of the others I’ve been looking at include:

Velobuild 177 (https://www.velobuildmall.com/products/2023-vb-r-177-super-light-carbon-fiber-road-frame-disc-version-hidden-cables): this is marketed as an endurance frame, but the geometry is similar to the LC017, with similar reach but  lower stack.  The stack/reach ratio is 1.38, slightly more relaxed than the LC017.  Some of the pluses of the 177 are, for me: T1000 carbon, standard 27.2 seat post, available with both zero and offset seat post, Velobuild does custom painting, the frame is US$500, but … Velobuild seems to be more hit and miss in terms of quality, which worries me because I’m a first time bike builder.

Velobuild 268 (https://www.velobuildmall.com/products/velobuild-2024-vb-r-268-carbon-fiber-aero-road-frame-disc-integrated-cables): geometry is very close to the VB177 and LC017, with a stack/reach ratio of 1.35.  The biggest pluses of the 268 are, for me: it’s a newer frame, so hopefully some of the known issues around the VB168 and VB177 have been addressed.  But, it’s too early to say (anxiously waiting for @patliean1’s review!), I'm not sold on the weird Mavic through axles, and it’s slightly heavier at 1000g.

Workswell 316 (https://www.workswellbikes.com/endurance/wcb-r-316-disc-brake.html): this, too, is marketed as an endurance frame, but again, the geometry is similar to the LC017 and the VB177, with a slightly shorter reach and slightly longer stack.  The stack/reach ratio is 1.38.  The pluses of the 316 are, for me: mix of T800 and T1000 carbon, the light version of the frame is 950g, and I was quoted US$890 for the frame.  On the other hand, Workswell does not do custom painting, and there is less info/reviews for Workswell and specifically for this frame.

Some other frames I’ve looked at include the Longteng 268D (https://www.ltbikes.com/index/products/view/id/21.html) with 1.40 stack/reach ratio, but slightly over 1000g, and the Longteng 266 (https://www.ltbikes.com/index/products/view/id/211.html) with 1.37 stack/reach ratio - but Longteng has been slow to respond after several attempts to reach them.  And the Workswell 366 (https://www.workswellbikes.com/endurance/wcb-r-366(disc-brake).html), with 1.39 stack/reach ratio, $800, but 1130g, and as mentioned above, Workswell doesn’t do custom painting.

I’m sure you guys have looked at some of these options as well, and maybe like me have thought deep into the night about which frame is the most suitable.  I’m a new member here but really enjoy the community and the spirit of sharing here – would love to hear some thoughts and if there are other options to consider!

[Edited to add LT266]

March 05, 2024, 05:38:22 AM
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Re: Spcycle R065 700C Full Carbon AERO Road Disc Brake Frameset
Dear All:

Attached some information for the new disc brake frame SP-R065.
Thanks for the supporting and interesting.

For this Frame some inforamtion listed:

Model: R065 700C Full Carbon AERO Road Disc Brake Frameset

Components: Frame, fork, integrated handlebar, seatpost, seatclamp, headset, spacers, thru axle

Frame Size:XS/S/M/L/XL

Weight: Frame Size M: 1050±30g, Fork: 410±20g, SP:210±15g, Handlebar: 370±15g (420*90mm)

Head Tube: 1 1/2" – 1 1/2" (upper 52mm lower 52mm, )

Fork: Full internal cable routing, 45mm offset, steering tube diameter 28.6mm.

Default Handlebar: HB-053 Full internal cable routing, Stem angle -9 °, drop 130mm, reach 75mm with DI2 hole

Available sizes of handlebar: 400x80/90/100mm, 420x90/100/110mm, 440x110/120mm

Seat Post:Specific 300mm length, 0mm offset, Compatible with 7 * 7 and 7 * 9mm rails

Bottom Bracket: T47 thread, BB shell width 86.5mm

Max Tire: 700*32C

Brake Type: Flat Mount Disc Brake

Rotor: Front 160mm, Rear 140mm

Dropout O.L.D: Rear Φ12*142mm, Fork Φ12*100mm

Suitable Derailleur: Di2 And Mechanical Both

Testing Standard: ISO 4210

Any interesting and pre-order of this frame, feel free to contact us at any time.

info@lc2000.com.cn

Other molds please check our website.

www.sp-cycle.com

Do you do custom paint and (own, not fake) logo's?

March 05, 2024, 07:27:32 AM
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Re: WheelTop EDS TX Full Wireless Groupset (Chinese SRAM)
That’s my line of thinking too.  2 weeks ago I priced out individual parts for a 12spd Ultegra mini group (w/o crankset, chain or cassette) at about 1000.00.  That was looking across several different websites and looking for sales.

On Aliexpress I found 105 Di2 for 8-850.00

Agree. I'm seeing around $900 USD for a complete 105 di2 groupset shipped. I really cant see the value proposition for EDS road at the current stated price of about $700 EUR. Essentially equal in price since im sure you could sell the 105 crank and cassette locally for $150-200. There would only be a few reasons i can see for buying it: Wanting to use it on a 10/11/13 speed cassette, looking for lighter weight, want true wireless, or want for rim brake.

I was initially thinking about getting this after longer term reviews came in this summer/fall but only if the cost comes down to about $500USD. Any higher then that and I will go with 105 di2 after this cycling season

March 05, 2024, 10:11:34 AM
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Re: Yuanan Carbon fiber wheelsets Year end discount promotion The YAG35 rim is the same as used for Elite wheels Marvel gravel wheel set.

https://www.elite-wheels.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/2023-Elitewheels-Dealer-Brochure.pdf
See PDF page 18 for spec.

Buying from Yuanan directly you can customize the wheels spec with your choice of hub and spokes.


March 06, 2024, 06:45:32 AM
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Re: WheelTop EDS TX Full Wireless Groupset (Chinese SRAM) I asked wheeltop about this (early March 2024) and they said that due to distribution and patent issues the EDS TX group is currently only available in Europe.  There's a list of places they ship to, but not the United States or Canada at the moment.

I'm trying to retrofit an electronic system onto a rim-brake frame with Shimano cassette so if I could get it this groupset would be a perfect solution for me.

March 06, 2024, 03:49:40 PM
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Re: Yuanan Carbon fiber wheelsets Year end discount promotion Dear Leo, if you would be able to provide wider rim, like 29-30mm wide with 21-22 internal width, I am sold.
Right now this is my choice:
https://eu.huntbikewheels.com/collections/road-cx-disc-brake-wheels/products/hunt-44-aerodynamicist-carbon-disc-wheelset
Depth 45-50-55 for different audiences.
With that you can cater "casual racers", "aero gravel racers" or even hill climbers which value some aero advantage.
No old standards even for cheap please.

March 06, 2024, 04:18:53 PM
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