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Re: Epic Evo Clone
Yes, I had to add a spacer ring of about 2.5 millimeters under the upper bearing cap.


A visit to a local bike shop and a buck later, I got exact what I needed, thanks! I was worried I need a more proprietary headset.

The build is finally complete :D  ::) This was my worst performance when it came to barb and olive installation, I screwed up 2 times, equaling about 15mm of lost hose length on an already short hose. but the ICR plastic insert puts enough pressure to allow me to cinch some shift cable into the frame for an equal length to the hose… this is the crap I obsess over.

The final ride fits me great. Size L for a 183cm, 170 lbs man. 50mm oneup stem.

I used a 150mm OneUp dropper with an OG Wolftooth lever.
SLX 7100 brakes modded for bite point adjust
XX1 shift set
SROAD rainbow 10-50 cassette
YBN waxed 12spd chain
Generic Eagle crankset
XT 8100 pedals
780 OneUp bars with Ergon GA3 grips
Fox float DPS 45mm rear shock
SID Select+ 120 fork
Fake Roval Traverse SL wheelset (LB rims on the new 350s)
Aliexpress rainbow centerline rotors
SRAM housing for the dropper and shifter.

I think that’s it… for any future builders of this frame, feel free to hit me up with any questions, I can answer pretty much anything about this AWST frame.

September 02, 2023, 01:21:20 PM
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Re: shipping times from aliexpress
Regarding your frame that shipped via China Post & USPS, what did the tracking history look like?  Were there large gaps between entries?  What was the total days in transit?  Thank you!

The China Post frame just initially had one update showing it shipped and was being processed in Shanghai. It then just froze for awhile until I had a USPS update that it arrived at customs in New York (I'm in California). It took about another week to travel cross-country. Total it was it was about 5 weeks of shipping time. Also if it's shipped via China Post and will deliver through USPS in the US, I'd recommend you get text/email alerts for the tracking number through the USPS website. My local post office is very good at delivering to my neighborhood, but depending on your PO service can be hit-or-miss.

January 11, 2025, 03:10:38 PM
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Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
No fancy metallic colors?

Yes, they have metallics. I went with the stock pearl white but explored other options and tantan send me a number of metallics using the YS paint codes common among Chinese builders.

January 20, 2025, 07:51:31 AM
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Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
My Seraph/ TanTan TT X 68 Build - Size 54 - Matte Black

6.94kg - $2900ish all in. Weight is plus or minus 50gwith grease, and misc hardware not accounted for.
I acquired most of these parts used over the course of 4-5 months, via ebay and facebook. I learned about most of the build options, not named shimano, from this site or via youtube (GC Performance, Pat Lino, China Cycling, etc...). I also built this bike by myself, first time ever doing a frame-up build, and used GC's SL8 bike build and his other videos.


Cool build for the weight and price - just fire!
Tell about the feel, how well the bike rides, how stiff is the frame? What branded bikes can you compare it to?

January 20, 2025, 10:14:19 AM
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Re: Interesting Aliexpress finds! - good deals, interesting stuff, new products etc!
Kinda pointless, the piston diameters are so much smaller you're unlikely to end up with a meaningfull braking power increase while intoducing the possibility of uneven piston movements and just extra points of failure in general. And since they're in the business of ripping off Hope, I would be wary of these, considering the issues hope RX4 had

I'm assuming the amount of pistons isn't what accounts for more braking power, but the increased size of the pads themselves.

Dude use punctuation marks, is it hard to end your sentences with a period? It's like you're talking into the air________________________________________________________________ ::)

January 22, 2025, 11:10:45 AM
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Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
It has the necessary holes, they sell the complete bike with DI2

Exactly as with the real SL8, the FD cable port is behind the FD hanger

January 24, 2025, 09:30:29 AM
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Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
Hi all,
How the hell do you adjust the saddle inclination on this seat tube when the saddle does not have the hole ?
I cannot strenghthen the anterior bolt.
This kind of seatpost is the same on TanTan and Taiwaneisen and identical to SL8.
Thanks!

Here's a video on how to do it on a real SL8. Not sure if you have the same bolts.



Maybe my link won't show up. Here's what to add after youtube dot com: /watch?v=Gr57XWk4FBY&t=592s

February 14, 2025, 03:25:36 PM
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Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
Thank you!
Nothe saddle does not have a cut out.
I will check if I can find an allen key super short

Or replace the bolt with a hex bolt and tighten it with a spanner.

February 16, 2025, 06:19:27 AM
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Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
First decent workout with the fake SL8 from Taiwaneisen.
My weight is 65kg and FTP at 220watt. Wheels Yoeleo 50mm, tubeless 28mm, 4bar.
- the riding is “smooth”: after 35km/h you can easily observe the bike “sailing”, it keeps the speed with minimum power.
This is even more visible when you ride into a group of cyclists at 35km/h or more or when you follow the draft of a car passing you
- the frame is quite stiff expecially in the seatpost area: you can clearly feel in the back while the fork and the front part of the frame is quite comfortable
- I was worried about the stiffness of the fork as it weights even less than the original. I tested in a 3km discend and it is good

So far so good


I recommend putting this somewhere else, like I said before. This is not the same bike or frame.

February 19, 2025, 02:29:40 PM
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Re: Epic Evo Clone
The AWST frame is exactly what I've been looking for. I've skimmed through this thread and seen a few complete builds with weights under 10kg. Are there any posts that break out the weight of each part(s), like wheels - x brand/ model at x grams? I've put together a list of parts and calculated out to 10.5kg with mostly lightweight parts (carbon cranks, wheels, bar, etc...), so I'm trying to see how y'all have dropped that extra kilo. Thanks for the help!
mine was sub 9kg but its a shit frame, I ride a flight attendant supercaliber now and its a better bike tbh

March 27, 2025, 04:07:06 PM
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