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Re: Xiamen Carbon Speed 10 years anniversary special promotion
Just a quick update on my order. I'm still considering these with the 65mm rim (T1100 or T800 TBD), has anyone ordered this configuration? Also regarding spokes, is there somewhere to compare the different carbon options? Usecase: Spez Venge '20, road racing flat/tiny hills. 30mm tubeless GP5000s. 82kg cat C. January 16, 2025, 06:00:19 AM |
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Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
My Seraph/ TanTan TT X 68 Build - Size 54 - Matte Black 6.94kg - $2900ish all in. Weight is plus or minus 50gwith grease, and misc hardware not accounted for. I acquired most of these parts used over the course of 4-5 months, via ebay and facebook. I learned about most of the build options, not named shimano, from this site or via youtube (GC Performance, Pat Lino, China Cycling, etc...). I also built this bike by myself, first time ever doing a frame-up build, and used GC's SL8 bike build and his other videos. Frameset - $629 + $100 shipping. Took about 2 months to receive. Frame w/ headset bearings, bottle cage bolts, fd mount, rd mount - 878g Uncut Fork - 339g Cut Fork - 309g (10mm spacer) Uncut Seatpost w/ hardware - 166g Seatpost Wedge - 20g Thru Axles - 62g Bar/ Stem 120/38 - 326g Spacers and Covers - 15g Garmin Mount - 28g (kinda sucks on first impression, will be looking for alternatives) BSA30 BB - 88g Aliexpress SL8 Direct Mount RD Hanger - 15g (saves 8g) CRW 50/55 Wheelset - 1325g MT900 160/140 Rotors - 187g (pair) Aliexpress Tubeless Valves - 11g (pair) Sunshine Cassette 11-32 - 230g Vittoria Corsa Pro Control Cream 28 Tubeless - 633g (should be 520g for the pair according to BRR.com) Amazon CL Rings - 23g (pair) Stans Sealant 40ml per tire - 60g Shimano ST-R8170 - 399g Shimano BR-R8170 - 300g (bolts, pads, calipers) Shimano FD-R8150 - 112g Shimano RD-R8150 - 250g Shimano BT-DN300 - 52g Di2 Cables - 16g Sram Force 170, Quarq PM, 53/39 Chainrings - 753g (old sram powerglide chainrings) KMC X12 Gold - 243g (uncut was 273g) Brake Hoses - 35g (approximate. I subtracted the excess) Aliexpress Carbon Bottle Cages - 48g (pair) Ryet 3d Ultralight 143mm - 165g Deda Tretaforo Bar Tape - 35g (40g uncut) R8000 Ultegra Pedals - 248g Future Weight Weenie Options: HY Seatpost - 130g - $167 (saves 36g) Avian Canary - 266g - $300 approximately (saves 60g) BDOP 11-30 Cassette - 126g - $160 (saves 104g) Xcadey/ Lexon 53/39 - 600g - $615 (saves 153g) J&L Axles - 47g - $40(saves 15g) Tofu Comtura Prima 28 Tires - 480g - $120 (saves 153g over current tires) Wheels - 1150-1200g - $800 to infinity (plenty of options here) Saddle - 100-130g - $40 to infinity (plenty of options here) January 19, 2025, 06:02:57 PM |
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Re: Replica Factor Ostro VAM
damn it looks like they improvised it! mine came with steel screws prone to rusting so i had to spent an additional 190 dollars just to get the authentic black inc cages to “complete the look” Wait. You spent 190 USD to buy 2 bottle cages & bolts? January 21, 2025, 06:51:06 AM |
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Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
What's likely to be the better choice, this one or the one from taiwan eisen? Probably the seraph/Tantan since they are a brick and mortar company that owns their factories January 23, 2025, 07:48:55 AM |
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Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
I suspect they're from the same source. I don't care for taiwaneisen's marketing-everything is a counterfeit branded and they even use a deceptive company name-so I bought from tantan.
January 23, 2025, 08:08:06 AM |
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Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
I suspect they're from the same source. I don't care for taiwaneisen's marketing-everything is a counterfeit branded and they even use a deceptive company name-so I bought from tantan. Maybe, I wonder if they produce their own in house because of the bigger bearings January 23, 2025, 08:29:52 AM |
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Re: Replica Factor Ostro VAM
I'll just paste the info: Description Report Item OSTRO 1. Normal strength weight/2, superhard+lighter/3, top-level competition version Corresponding price: 4000 5000 6500 RMB in three versions The models (regular/high version) that are currently being made in domestic shelves are relatively good There are three versions of OSTRO 49 size and weight comparison Low version: 1070g (domestic 700) geometric non l: l (Not recommended) (Poor painting level, geometric accessories are not 1:1, customer feedback is not good, not recommended to start) Normal version: 925 grams (imported 700+imported T700 l: l (High cost-effectiveness) Moderate painting, high cost-effectiveness, and normal delivery time Maximum version: 825 grams (30T+imported 800) with almost the same factory strength. l: L (competition, comfort) Ultra light (with good oil filling and weight) (Weight after fine soil filling, frame tolerance of plus or minus 10 grams) ⬇️ (Paint coating may have different weights according to different colors) UD dew carbon+30-40 grams Color gas:+50-60 grams After refinement, weight: https://www.aliexpress.com/store/1102991493?spm=a2g0o.detail.0.0.539cufBBufBBBr It's about $1000 vs $1330CAD for the lower tier vs top tier. Maybe cheaper, I'm only familiar with the Tier 3. February 25, 2025, 05:48:11 PM |
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Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
Btw is the derrailer hanger the same as the SL8 has?Yes. I swapped the stock hanger with an aliexpress direct mount hanger. The fit was perfect and I've had no issues. March 13, 2025, 09:02:03 AM |
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Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
I'll just toss out there that I think the margins are narrowing. EPS, the sharing of knowledge etc. have made things closer. The VAM clones by all reports are pretty much indistinguishable from the real thing. I suspect the X68 is closer to an SL bike than the x38 is to a Foil. Time will tell. +1 on that. The layup know-how is with the factories, not the brands, at this point, i'm pretty sure. Westerners don't like going to and spending time in China. Some brands will do in house prototypes, you'd have to trust that the factory would replicate the layup - i'd question that. Most brands don't do any layup, they ask the factory to get the frame to be that stiff in that area, to weigh that much, and voila. I'm convinced that if you're not on the factory floor, you don't know your product. Especially in China. People locally talk, they learn, they switch companies, they start their own thing, they moonlight. Techniques are getting better, know-how is getting better, and know-how is spreading. On price, i heard that the factory that makes frames for Factor charges Factor less than $500 per frame... Now, can you buy a fake SL8 and get something indistinguishable? No idea. But we're not talking rocket ships. And with tyres getting bigger, all this air will mute a lot of differences. And even if back to back, you may be able to tell the difference, ride whichever frame 5x and you'll probably forget how the other one felt. For probably 90% of riders (the last 10% would be racers, sprinters and the likes). March 27, 2025, 03:38:26 PM |
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