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Re: Fast/race-ish Gravel Bike wanted What is even a fast bike? Second place of 2025 Unbound 200 mile was "won" with a BMC URS, their adventure bike rather than BMC Kaius, their gravel race bike. Unless you know what you're doing and aiming for budget build you'd expect to spend about 2000 - 3000 euro for a nice gravel bike with electric shifting. Building the bike by yourself is relatively easy - you don't need any degree to work at a bike shop - you just need plenty of tools that can be quite expensive, patience and willingness to learn.
June 03, 2025, 07:26:26 AM 		1
Re: Fast/race-ish Gravel Bike wanted I build my first bike last month. A ICAN GRA04 "Race" Gravel Frame (there is a thread in this forum). With bottle cages, pedals and a toptube-bag its about 8.6 kg. I installed the Wheeltop eds gex. The wheelset is the elitewheels ent gravel carbon with 45mm hight. The frame have 50mm tire clearence.

So I would say it "fits" your criterias. Without the tools it costs around 2300,-/2400,- € including shipping, tax and a custom paintjob. I used some non-Ali products, like the chain, the tires and the bar-tape

The build went smooth. Watched some tutorials before and during the build. There was no problem I couldnt fix myself.
June 03, 2025, 07:48:16 AM 		1
Re: Fast/race-ish Gravel Bike wanted I sound like a broken record, but Peter's Grevil clone fits your bill. I have one, it's great.
June 03, 2025, 07:50:34 AM 		1
Re: Fast/race-ish Gravel Bike wanted 8.5kg is easy with gravel. Both my gravel bikes with pedals/mounts/cages are in the 7.5-8kg range and that's without doing anything exotic/expensive with parts. Tires seem like one of the biggest factors of weight for gravel. I always try to go for tires that balance weight and traction. Good luck!
June 03, 2025, 09:37:46 AM 		1
Re: Fast/race-ish Gravel Bike wanted
Quote from: Freddy__HH on June 04, 2025, 03:22:27 AM
May I ask what bikes you have and what the built cost you?

My main gravel bike is a Ceccotti RF25 gravel frameset (also know an SPCycle G056). I picked that up for about $400 USD during the 11.11 sale. I'm running LTwoo eGR which I picked up for $300 USD during the Black Friday sale. In terms of parts, I'm probably in the $1500-$1600 USD range including all the carbon bits and other components (lightweight cassette, carbon crankset, etc.). Depending on which wheelset+tire combo I use, my bike fluctuates in weight between 7.5kg and less than 8kg.

My other gravel bike is an older CX carbon frame that I use spare/leftover parts on. Even that bike in a 1x configuration is 7.9kg with a mix-n-match of Shimano & LTwoo groupset and whatever spare parts I have laying around.

If I actually took my gravel bike weight reduction seriously with higher end lightweight components, I'm sure I could build out a frame in the sub 7kg mark.  ;)
June 04, 2025, 01:04:28 PM 		1