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Re: VeloBuild VB-R-268 frame
So my frame arrived today. Well packed and undamaged. Took about 5 weeks from order placement and 14 days from shipment notification to delivery. Not super fast but not super slow either.

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Looking forward to building it up in the next days. Unfortunately, still waiting for the chainrings to arrive, so full build will have to wait until ~end of next week.

I know it's been awhile, since I promised pictures of the completed build ...

Last week I finally received another package from velobuild. First, I was a bit worried as the package said "bicycle rear hanger" and I know they have them as spare parts as well. But inside were actually the correct 7x9mm saddle rail clamps that were missing. Then I had to wait for better weather since this summer just doesn't really want to start here but well I finally went for a longer ride today and took some pictures as well. Unfortunately, there were still some wet patches on the road here and there, so I gathered a bit of dirt on the frame; just kindly ignore that :D

Really happy with the overall build and ride feeling. Aggressive enough for my riding, a bit of aero, and not too heavy either. The bike weights in at around 7.6kg and my full "ride-ready" weight (pedals, computer mount, bottle holder) is around 8kg. Considering I went with 2x 11-34 for hilly terrain and a built-in power meter, I think that's not too bad.

A few notes and remarks after ~400km of riding the bike:
  • The saddle rails came lose a few times; just enough for the saddle to tilt. I gave the threads a bit of medium thread lock and so far it seems to hold. Time will tell if it remains like that.
  • My headset developed some play quite quickly. I first though it might be the longer compression plug I got cheap from AE and installed the one that came with the frame. Same story though. Might need to tighten the handlebar stem bolts more than the recommendation ...
  • Stiffness is fine in general. I noticed that when I put more torque through the pedals (hard riding up hill, maybe ~1000W), my disc brakes rub a bit. I suspect the frame is just bending a little bit "too much" under that power and my rather high weight of 90kg that it deforms so much the calipers are rubbing just a little bit from side to side movement of the frame while I push the pedals hard. Since I'm currently not able to do real sprints due to injury, I cannot comment if that might become an issue down the line once I recovered. Will observe.
Not concerning the frame but just some general notes about the build:
  • Magene Powermeter just works. Install was effortless and so was the setup. Can recommend.
  • Pass Quest 2x aero chainrings fit the look&feel of the Magene very well. Not sure how many aero gains those chainrings actually offer (not that it would matter to my riding at all) but I just like the clean and "closed-up" look of them.
  • Goldix 12s Ultralight cassette: works fine in general but takes some time to shift from smallest to 2nd smallest cog. Other shifts are quick and easy (so indexing is correct) but that last one just does not want to down shift. Also my favorite gears (5-8) are a bit more noisy than the others. Especially when I'm in the big ring at the front. Not sure why though. Maybe it just needs a fresh wax after ~400km. Will have to observe.

PS: just the other day, another rider chased after me as I passed him just to admire the bike ("What a nice looking bike!"). Wanted to know what brand it is and where I got it from :D

July 08, 2024, 10:52:44 AM
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Re: Lightcarbon: New LCR017-D (or Yishun R1058-D) just got an update from Jim, that my frame has been painted and that it will be shipped to me shortly.
So far i'm pretty stoked about the look.

Hoping, of course, that the quality is good. But so far I've been happy with the process, even though there was a slight delay.

November 18, 2024, 01:06:07 AM
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Re: Lightcarbon: New LCR017-D (or Yishun R1058-D)
It seems that LC's quality control department has been on an extended vacation. It might be worth the extra money if you're interested in saving your face and collar bone from any down time or permanent rearrangement. If I could do it again I would definitely stay away

i would very much appreciate it, if you wouldn't continue to pollute this thread with your tired opinion on the QC topic. You have voiced that often enough, it's clear where you stand with that and at this point you're contributing only noise instead of any helpful advice ...

December 01, 2024, 10:39:28 AM
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Re: Lightcarbon: New LCR017-D (or Yishun R1058-D) I'm mostly done with my build now, it went much quicker than I expected. I had to order a replacement front derailleur, for some reason the first one didn't work properly. Even after holding it side-by-side with the new one, I couldn't figure out what was wrong.

Next steps are to adjust & bleed the brakes, have a quick shakedown drive and put on the handlebar tape. After that give it a good cleaning and add some protection on the chainstays, etc..

Quick summary of the setup:
  • Frameset: Lightcarbon LCR017-D, superlight, size 54, HBR 13 integrated bar & stem 420x90, seatpost with 0mm offset
  • Wheelset: Lightcarbon C52DB Carbon Gravel Wheelset, 33mm deep rims, with upgraded spokes (Sapim CX-Ray)
  • Groupset: Shimano 105 R7100, 12-speed mechanical, disk brakes
  • Tires: WTB Expanse 32 (there's enough room to fit 35mm tires or even a bit bigger)
  • Saddle: Brooks Cambium C13 Carbon
  • Pedals: Shimano PD-ES 600

Weight is around 8.2kg in the current setup (incl. pedals), which is more than good enough for my purposes.

December 18, 2024, 05:06:49 PM
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Re: Lightcarbon: New LCR017-D (or Yishun R1058-D) Hello,

I have finished assembling my LightCarbon LCR017D.
Here is the list of the assembled equipment:

Frame: 52 (LCB-08HS color)
Integrated handlebar and stem: 40/90
Groupset: WHEELTOP EDS
Crankset: MAGENE P505 - 170mm cranks
Pedals: LFZ
Chainrings: DUAL-OVAL 50/36
Cassette: SPADEO-Casette 11-28
Chain: SUMC SX11SL-116L
Brake pads: BUCKKUB
Brake disc: NEWGOAL 160mm
Saddle: RYET Black carbon
Wheels: ELITEWHEELS Drive 40 mm
Tires: CONTINENTAL GP5000 STR 28"
Inner tube: CYCLAMI TPU 28" FV45mm
Computer: HAMMERHEAD Karoo 3

My dimensions: 177 cm / 71 kg
Weight of the bike (with pedals/computer/rear light/bottle): 7.8 kg

I expect more than my CYCPLUS L7.
I was able to travel 100 km with it and I am delighted with the behavior of the bike.
Responsive without being penalizing in case of less well.

February 02, 2025, 05:16:54 AM
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Re: Lightcarbon: New LCR017-D (or Yishun R1058-D)
Here some extra pictures.

Update from LightCarbon: They responded requesting more info on the bike. I will let everyone know when I have more updates
Dear all: First of all, please allow me to express my sincerest apologies on behalf of our team. Due to recent busy work, we failed to check the forum in time and missed the timely feedback on this post. We are very grateful to our friend Danis for letting us know about this post in time, and giving us the opportunity to express our apologies and solutions to you.
First of all, let me talk about the results.
Dear Adam, We are deeply sorry for the frame problem you encountered. I believe Wendy has replied to you by email in time. We will send you a brand new frame that has been strictly inspected and fully qualified for free, and will re-spray the same paint as the original one to ensure that your vehicle can be restored to its best condition. We are deeply sorry for the trouble and inconvenience caused to you by this mistake. We promise to do our best to solve your problem and ensure that similar situations will not happen again. Once again, I express my sincerest apologies to you and thank you for your understanding and tolerance. If you have any other questions or need further assistance, please feel free to contact us.

February 28, 2025, 07:48:17 AM
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Re: Lightcarbon: New LCR017-D (or Yishun R1058-D) We welcome supervision from buyers and other friends, but I want to say to some people that Han Bini has never sold a frame for us, and we are grateful for his video.
As for the remarks of some other brand's sales colleagues, people in the industry know that we will never slander others for business, we will only do our best to provide good products and services.
Any buyers who have questions about our products can contact your sales staff, or send an email to me: jim@lightcarbon.com

February 28, 2025, 08:19:48 AM
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Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
Hello everyone,

i'm reasonably certain that I will order the frame.

I had some questions for TanTan (via the Seraph-website) beforehand which were answered by Rose.

1) maybe also for you guys information:
I asked for the maximum weight limit. The answer is 130 kg (not specified wether its system- or riderweight, but even assuming systemweight thats more than enough for me).

2) I asked what a few extra spacers would cost. Answer for that is 50 USD for 3 spacers (5+10+10 mm).
I find that a bit ... steep tbh. Dont even know if I really need them, just want to be on the safe side here.
Aliexpress does have some SL8 spacers that are at least a bit cheaper.
Does anyone know wether or not they fit? And does anyone have a recommendation?

3) shipping to europe: 150 USD via DPD - ETA 15-30 days.

I would probably also order the Garmin Mount from Seraph, for that price a no brainer I would think.

Thats would be the frame sorted ... I will still have do decide the:
- bottom bracket (or well .. whats there to decide? ... its just a bottom bracket)
- group set (probably Ultegra DI2, but I am considering a Magene P505 as crank+powermeter ... alternatively assioma favero)
- wheels (absolutely no clue yet)
...
anything else I forgot?
Feel free to give me tips and recommendations, I honestly have little clue what I am doing here as it would be my first self-built bike

For my build I am using a DFS Carbon Crank which looks identical to my Cybrei crank on my gen SL8 running a 24mm Titanium axle instead of DUB 29mm only because I already have a bottom bracket spare. Running with XCADEY Power Meter and passquest 53-39T  chainring. Same PM as other crank
All was about $500usd.

Other consideration.
Saddle I have a Ryet saddle from Aliexpress
Brake discs I have a couple of sets but may sell
them on as I run Galfer Wave.
Wanting to see without spending a shed load what weight it comes in at.

April 22, 2025, 07:07:34 AM
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Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
Hello everyone,

i'm reasonably certain that I will order the frame.

I had some questions for TanTan (via the Seraph-website) beforehand which were answered by Rose.

1) maybe also for you guys information:
I asked for the maximum weight limit. The answer is 130 kg (not specified wether its system- or riderweight, but even assuming systemweight thats more than enough for me).

2) I asked what a few extra spacers would cost. Answer for that is 50 USD for 3 spacers (5+10+10 mm).
I find that a bit ... steep tbh. Dont even know if I really need them, just want to be on the safe side here.
Aliexpress does have some SL8 spacers that are at least a bit cheaper.
Does anyone know wether or not they fit? And does anyone have a recommendation?

3) shipping to europe: 150 USD via DPD - ETA 15-30 days.

I would probably also order the Garmin Mount from Seraph, for that price a no brainer I would think.

Thats would be the frame sorted ... I will still have do decide the:
- bottom bracket (or well .. whats there to decide? ... its just a bottom bracket)
- group set (probably Ultegra DI2, but I am considering a Magene P505 as crank+powermeter ... alternatively assioma favero)
- wheels (absolutely no clue yet)
...
anything else I forgot?
Feel free to give me tips and recommendations, I honestly have little clue what I am doing here as it would be my first self-built bike

A couple things-they ship the frame with the max number of spacers Specialized "allows" on the original and cut the steerer to that length. Not sure you'd want to add more, not sure the steerer tube is designed to have the bars that far up, it puts more leverage on the steerer at the bearing. Investigate further.
Any good bsa bottom bracket will be fine.
Mine shipped with the computer mount and various adaptors stock. I don't like either it or the Specialized one, used a Magcad for wahoo bolt.
Do you run a varia? If so, there's a nice sl8 specific mount on esty that is designed with a shape that matches the post and hidden bolts, its like $30.

April 22, 2025, 01:35:02 PM
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Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes? Hey All,

Another complete build post with some first thoughts for anyone still waiting on their frame or thinking about buying.

About the build, went with the matte black because it was the lightest and only way I was going to beat the start of the tariffs here in the USA. Frame in a 56 was 850g with hangers and bottle cage bolts, fork was 330g uncut. Ultegra 8100 groupset, Roval CL II, Selle San Marco Shortfit CFX, Time Xpro 10, bike with pedals and cages is 16.1 lbs. From order to delivery was about 2.5 weeks.

About me, 170 lbs, former Cat 2 road/Cat 1 CX, now just ride for fun and occasionally hop into a weeknight crit. Threshhold around 300w and sprint around 1300w, so at least around here in Colorado decidedly average.

About safety, I had around 75 miles so far in my first week after building up and the vibes were good, and then the broken fork post really shook me. Had plans for a fast group ride today, but didn’t want any incident to potentially hurt other people so bailed on that plan. Decided I’d go out for my own and try to basically ride like an idiot so if it was gonna break I would at least be prepared for it. Gradually built up to higher and higher speed and hit the brakes hard, with the fastest being around 45 mph. Did some bunny hops, fast corners, potholes, downhill speed bumps, and a dirt road with some rough washboard. Held together well and shows no outward signs of deformation, coin test sounds the same as before I left, and pressing in various sections can discern no flex. I won’t pretend that this means mine or anyone else’s are perfect but it makes me feel a lot better at least. Probably will avoid any big groups until I hit at least 1000 miles in a couple months and much more confident it’s sturdy.

Finally, how does it ride? Honestly much better than expected. Last couple team bikes I had were a Sage Skyline and Donnelly C/C for cross. Comfort is on par with the Sage, but feels a lot more planted than that bike, although to be fair it had a max clearance for 25s. Stiffness wise it beats both of those, and that was a pleasant surprise because at this price and weight I was worried it would end up being a noodle.

So far fairly optimistic about how it’s performed in the first 150 or so miles, but hesitant to recommend to anyone else with the safety concerns as they are. Will be consistently checking back here for Tan Tan’s response on the fork, and will update as well when I get closer to 1000 miles. Anyone in the Denver area want to see one or ride it in person hit me up!

May 04, 2025, 09:24:43 PM
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