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Re: Lightcarbon: New LCR017-D (or Yishun R1058-D) Do you have evidence that he is lying? He called out other YouTuber for making reviews without mentioning the conflict of interest (the elves frames). So that would mean he would be accused of being a hypocrite?

I am not trying to defend him, I think he could be a bit more mature about women, but let's not accuse him of something without tangible proof, please.

September 22, 2024, 09:58:54 PM
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Re: Lightcarbon: New LCR017-D (or Yishun R1058-D)
Not sure what you're on about. Where does it say that something regarding QC is "optional dependent on price"? Lightcarbon specifically states that they produce their frames to the Z3 standard.

I get the feeling you're on some personal crusade, that doesn't help anyone in this discussion. I'm all for constructive criticism, but your baseless accusations(as in, you provide no proof for your statements) are less than helpful and quite the distraction.
I think the point here is that @tiagosantos_ss received the frame with some truly ugly voids on the inside surface. Considering the statement of LC that all of their frames are of LCR017 of Z3 standard you are still at risk of getting unridable frame. Of course, if every 5th frame is quality checked for some defects, there's still a risk of getting shitty frame.

Let's see how it will be resolved for him.

September 23, 2024, 08:34:05 AM
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Re: Lightcarbon: New LCR017-D (or Yishun R1058-D)
even then, the restaurant should be given the opportunity to make it right.

There is a lot of fuss being made here about one frame. i think there will be QC issues but as long as the companies deal with it in the right way (in the end the customer should be satisfied with what they got), for me this is acceptable.
After all, to expect flawless QC at a fraction of the price for western brands is quite unrealistic.

On a different note: does anybody have the exact clearance for the fork and seat stays? Im wondering if 32 mm really is the limit or if i can push it a couple more mm if necessary.

I agree, as per my previous post. A factory that makes 1000 frames will have more QC issues than one that makes 10, assuming a constant error rate. And Yishun is very big, afaik. So while i'm disappointed by their reaction to the swiss cheese frame, taking a step back, yishun / lightcarbon is still a seller with great reputation overall. So the restaurant analogy isn't quite right.

On clearance, it's rated 32C, not 32mm, so you can run a 32C tyre on a wider than 32mm rim, your tyre will measure 32-33-34...mm and you'll be fine. If you're saying you want to run a 35C tyre, then it's a different question. On my LT268, i have a 34mm rim and a 32C tyre, and i have loads of space all around. the frame is also rated 32C.

October 05, 2024, 03:14:21 AM
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Re: Lightcarbon: New LCR017-D (or Yishun R1058-D) Well, this one is mine. Looking forward to it being shipped. Let’s see what happens after the cheese incident...


October 21, 2024, 01:12:50 PM
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Re: Lightcarbon: New LCR017-D (or Yishun R1058-D)
not to worry, i have ordered an endoscope already and intend to thoroughly check the frame once i have it in my hands. I will share here if i find any issues.

But i don't think it's brave of me to order one - the risk, at least in my view, is fairly small. And that, for me, is okay, especially given the prices we're discussing.
And if there's any issues, i have all winter to get this sorted with LC ...

I’m on same boat and forced to bought an endoscope because of these issues.
It's really sad that customer have to make a QC, but like already mentioned, I also have a whole winter to try to get things right.

October 22, 2024, 07:40:01 AM
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Re: Lightcarbon: New LCR017-D (or Yishun R1058-D)
Seems like it would be easier to have the manufacturer send a video with their own boroscope. Then you dont have to buy a camera or go through the hassle of swapping frames. And it will force them to step up their QC

Maybe ignorant on my part but knock on wood I havent heard of any issues with structural integrity on Chinese frames recently. I think these companies get that injuring/maiming/killing their customer base is prob not good for business. And they are not new to the game either. Maybe Im too optimistic

That's unrealistic given the amount of frames made, the time and labor effort required.  Best chances are to get your own, inspect and get a replacement if problems arise.

October 22, 2024, 09:46:27 AM
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