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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Elves vs Winspace ?
« on: February 05, 2023, 04:56:35 AM »
I'm looking to buy a new bike, really hesitating between all the options I have (Propel from my Giant LBS with 105 mechanical disc and alloy wheels) or buy a chinese frame from Winspace, Elves etc and build it myself with Di2 & carbon wheelset.


I have a 2010 Trek Madone 4.9 with 10s Ultegra (rim) (see below), it's better than my first road ever road bike (Giant Contend aluminium frame) but is like a noodle compared to my Giant Trinity that I bought in august. I need a buy for racing that's stiff & aero, and that fits me well (1m98/6foot6).

I thought it was going to be impossible to find a frame fitting me from a chinese manufacturer since their biggest size is usually 58cm (my Trek Madone being a 61cm), but the top tube length on my Madone is "only" 57cm, + my stem is 110mm but as you can see I don't have an agressive position on it at all lol, I'm really flexible so I will probably change the stem angle and slam in soon tho. Elves 3XL top tube is 56cm but the head tube is really small compared to my Madone (173mm vs 210mm), so it actually would be a really good agressive racing frame for me, same for Winspace their XL their top tube length is 58cm and head tube is 170mm. My headtube on the Madone is 210mm lol...


I could also just buy a rim brake frameset from Winspace or Elves and maybe a pair of Hypers or wheelset from Elves, Elitewheels etc and put my 10s Ultegra until I get more money to buy used/new rim di2 groupset. Still kinda hesitating between staying on rim or going full gas on disc since my Giant Trinity is rim and if I stay on rim I could switch out the wheels... so idk + I live in Paris so not in a mountain area no real need for disc

Should I wait for Winspace to release their T1550 and Elves for their new Falath Evo you think ? They're probably gonna be disc only ?

Thanks

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I'm looking for an aero crit beast bike (45kmh + in training and around same speed in races)
My current road bike (Trek Madone 4.9 2010 is good, stiffer than my first bike (Giant Contend 2019 aluminium) but still feels like a noodle tbh, bought a Giant Trinity in august and it is just another world in terms of aero and stiffness)
So I need an aero + stiff bike, I'm really flexible so no issues on agressive geometry

I have a budget of around 3-4k euros max, I'm really hesitating between a real western brand like Giant and aliexpress/fake chinese frame etc
I could buy the new Giant Propel 2023 with 105 mechanical, its 3k euros but with alloy wheels

Or for around the same price I could buy the new 105 di2 (or used ultegra di2) + some Elite/Winspace wheels and an aliexpress frame (either fake pinarello or legit Dengfu, Hongfu, Yoeleo etc)
Or a real frame but used, but I'm looking for disc brakes and preferably di2.

Other issues with aliexpress/chinese carbon frames is that most of them don't do size 58+cm, I'm 1m98/6foot6 so I need at least a 60cm, my current Trek Madone 4.9 is a 61cm+ big stem and I could put a longer stem there..

What do you guys think ? Any tall riders that bought a chinese frame ? Cheers

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Advice on fake frames
« on: January 12, 2023, 12:58:10 PM »
Anyone bought fake frames such as Dogma, S5, Emonda, Madone, SL6/7, etc ?

I've been looking on aliexpress, biggest sellers are Taiwan Eisen and Rocking Cycling Store. The last one has a website (yohobike.com) with a lot of frames. He gave me a password to check it : "realme"
They also sell fake Princeton wheels, zipps etc

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