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Messages - Patrick C.

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After The Ride / Re: Wanna go for a ride? Official Ride Meet-up Thread
« on: February 02, 2016, 08:22:46 PM »
Any dates coming up where you know you will be at Chicopee? :)

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29er / Re: My IP-057 project
« on: December 31, 2015, 01:24:27 PM »
Wow, 203 mm rotor on a city bike?  I use a 160 for cross county and rough trails, and never thought I needed more braking power (more skill, maybe:)).  I also wonder if the fork would have held up with a smaller rotor.

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29er / Re: My IP-057 project
« on: December 30, 2015, 10:55:07 AM »
That sucks!  Could you tell what order the things fractured, or was it all at once?  My guess is the brake side broke, then the right side collapsed.  Hard to be sure from the picture, but it looks like the right leg just buckled from the unbalanced load.  XMIplay is still around, but if you bought from Peter he has a different company now.   

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29er / Re: Viperdriver's 18.5lb Hardtail Build
« on: December 27, 2015, 05:24:09 PM »
So you switched from single speed to the derailleur?  How did the weight change?  I never seriously considered a single speed, but was curious on how much weight it would drop.

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29er / Re: Broken frame
« on: December 10, 2015, 08:44:24 AM »
Thanks for posting the pics, but you probably gave the gram counters an aneurysm seeing that bag left in there.  Probably an extra 10 g in there, or more if you count all the tubes  :)

I'll ask some coworkers about the pics, but based on the description of the crash I still think it performed as expected. 

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29er / Re: Broken frame
« on: December 08, 2015, 03:29:18 PM »
Again, I'm no expert in composite failure modes, but nothing I've seen would stop me from riding my Chiner frame.  There is a lot of info out on the web, but it can be tough to sift through and find anything relevant.  It may be describing a completely different process than making bike frames, but this paper has a few pictures of broken test bars- http://www.scielo.br/scielo.php?pid=S1516-14392005000100016&script=sci_arttext  - the loading method has a big influence on what the fracture looks like as well as the layup. Particularly interesting (to me, anyway) was the conclusion-
"In general, the flexural and shear tests showed that the matrix type caused greater influence on the mechanical properties than the carbon fabric arrangement type. The F584/PW and F584/8HS laminates showed the highest flexural strength values than the F155 epoxy ones. This behavior is attributed to the higher toughness of the F584 matrix, which was modified with a thermoplastic"

Which makes sense, since the fiber is so much stronger than the matrix the overall strength depends on how well it holds together.  I guess instead of talking about the carbon fiber the bike companies should talk about their new toughened epoxy resin, but that doesn't impress people like "Ultra Super High Modulus Carbon Fiber".

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29er / Re: IP-256SL build [finished - photos]
« on: December 08, 2015, 10:10:27 AM »
Great looking bike!  I always think it's strange to paint one black, but the gloss/matte effect looks really nice.  If you need a little more comfort, it looks like you've got plenty of room for fatter tires :)


That area looks crazy- like the Sahara in the middle of the Netherlands.  I found the Dutch wikipedia page, but couldn't find anything in English about it.  How did the area form?  Is the sand hard packed and easy to ride on?

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29er / Re: Broken frame
« on: December 08, 2015, 09:50:41 AM »
The big names may be using a more expensive prepreg, but the effect on the frame or on what the rider feels will be negligible IMO.  The designs may be better, but that's a separate argument and can be very subjective.  If they have 68% fiber versus 60% fiber, that could save about 100 g on a 1 kg frame, assuming the design uses the same amount of fiber (for equal strength and stiffness) and that they are able to use the higher fiber % composite for the entire frame.  The actual savings is probably less.  Most of the stuff they put out about carbon fiber is marketing speak.

I work for a company that makes a high performance thermoplastic resin.  Most of our material goes into molded and extruded parts, but we also make composite tapes.  I'm not a composites expert, but I think I am smarter than your average bear on composites and materials in general.  To me, the best measure of quality control is how well the fibers are wetted out.  If the fracture has a lot of 'dry' fibers sticking out or obvious delamination between the layers, that means it was poorly made and failed at a lower stress or strain than it should have.  It's tough to tell from the pictures, but it looks like the material was pretty well made.  If you smashed the seat stays of a name brand frame with a rock I bet you'd see the same thing.

Carbonazza, any chance for some close ups of the fracture surfaces?  Also, where did the rock hit the frame?  At one of the fractures, or in between?


edit- also, if anything is highly innovative in the carbon fiber, it's done by the fiber maker or prepreg maker and is available to all bike makers willing to pay for it. 

 

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Sales & Classifieds / Re: 29er light bicycle wheelset
« on: December 04, 2015, 07:14:09 AM »
Watch who you're calling Francis.  You're a real tough guy behind a keyboard, huh?   How about you mind your own business punk?

I guess you didn't get the joke, sorry.


And lighten up, Francis.  :)

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29er / Re: FM056 questions
« on: December 03, 2015, 11:06:05 AM »
+1 for the 056/057 with carbon rims!  Got mine from Peter, and still loving it.  I don't think you can go wrong with either, but I went with the 057 because at the time (~May 2014), it would have taken an extra couple of months to get a 256, effectively making me miss most of the summer.

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Sales & Classifieds / Re: 29er light bicycle wheelset
« on: December 03, 2015, 11:00:24 AM »
Lighten up, Francis.  He wrote nothing to dispute what you paid.  He also did nothing to hurt your chances of selling the wheels, since anyone who is seriously interested would most likely know what else is available.  I hope you're able to get a good price for them, but remember that they will be compared to what is available today, not what you paid for them in the past.

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Nice!  I'm thinking of doing the same for my son.  Plus my wife says she wants a bike she can ride on trails.  I may have to build three more Chiners before I get another one...(third would be for my daughter)

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29er / Re: CarbonSpeed CS-041
« on: September 29, 2015, 02:25:25 AM »
I'm very much diggen this frame. Only draw back for me, is won't work with my current wheels. My are quick release wheels.. :(


You should be able to get the frame with QR dropouts- all the pictures look like the frame has removable dropouts, similar to the -057 or other frames.  Ask Peter about it!

http://www.xmcarbonspeed.com/Productinfo.asp?f=1327

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29er / Re: CS-041 built from Portugal
« on: September 02, 2015, 07:14:06 PM »
Looking forward to the pics!  How do you like that saddle?  I still haven't found one I really like.  Tried one of the web saddles, but it broke on the first ride (I'm ~90 kg).

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After The Ride / Re: Leadville 2015 - Chiner Edition
« on: August 26, 2015, 05:17:58 PM »
I'd be bragging too.  At the finish I probably would have told everyone that I built it for half the cost of a name brand frame, along with other delirious ramblings.

Do you have an easy estimate of how much you rode each week, and how many long rides you did?  I doubt I'll ever try anything like Leadville, just interested in how much time it takes to prepare.

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