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I've been active on the weight weenies build thread! Completed my build a couple months ago, it's been great!

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Component Deals & Selection / Re: LTWOO RX hydro sets
« on: May 09, 2023, 07:35:22 AM »
I'm planning to give my LTwoo R9 hydro shifters another try, especially since I received a pair of ZRace XG brake calipers that are surprisingly small/light.

Make sure to set the olive as close to the barb as possible on these. They have a design flaw where the hose blocks one of outboard oil port if the hose is sticking out at all.

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Interested to hear your experience with the QED P325...

Sorry my bad, had the wrong link... however including RX crankset it is maybe 25 US$ more expensive.
 
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4001268930419.html
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004272116963.html

BR Chris

Sorry for the late reply. My experience has been mixed. I like the crank and power meter themselves. Very light and stiff. Huge selling point for me was the 167.5mm length option since I run a very forward and hip-closed position. 170mm seemed just a tad long, 165 seemed way too short. 167.5 feels just right, although I'm not a bike fitter so I can't really speak much to if it's actually optimal for me.
 
What I don't like is the chainring. I get the sense that mine is out of true, making derailleur adjustment VERY sensitive. It doesn't resist bending much either, giving me the impression that it's susceptible to bending from minor side impacts. It uses a mountain-bike shimano direct-mount standard which means there really aren't any replacement options, and Magene doesn't even sell replacements. Fit tolerance is a bit sloppy for my taste, even though the lockring should be providing all the support force. All in all I hope replacements become available in the future, because I'd like to replace them one day.

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Component Deals & Selection / Re: Fake eeWings titanium cranks
« on: May 03, 2023, 08:52:51 AM »
I just became aware of the counterfeit eeBrakes and eeWings available on AliExpress. Reports on the brakes are mostly positive. Has anyone tried, or heard of anyone trying the eeWings cranks?

US $395.99 | Handmade Titanium Crankset MTB Crank ARMS Immortal Ti Crank Mountain bike Crank arms Road Bike Crankset Titanium MTB Parts
https://a.aliexpress.com/_m0tPT52

Sick cranks but the welds in those pictures look disgusting  :-\

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Component Deals & Selection / Re: LTWOO RX hydro sets
« on: April 13, 2023, 11:12:40 PM »
You don't even open the bleed nut on the caliper? Is this suitable when you might need to top up some oil? You just open the shifter bleed port, screw the funnel, put some mineral oil and squeeze for a while?
I'm probably going to do my first bleed next week on my new build and every video is different. GCN and RoJ's seem the easiest/most intuitive

Nope, just open the oil port on the brifter, cone on with oil, squeeze lever. As I see it, putting the syringe at the bottom is primarily for flushing old fluid out, which is important since mineral oil dissolves water. But for the the bleed itself, syringe comes out, caliper gets sealed back up, and I just squeeze the lever with the cone on top.

For topping up oil, I suggest putting on the cone with oil and squeezing the levers once or twice with no bleed block in place. The LTWOO hydro systems are known to have issues getting full volume in the first place, leading to too much lever throw. This is the protocol LTWOO recommended to the China Cycling YT channel to address the issue.

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Component Deals & Selection / Re: Onirii hydraulic flat mount brakes
« on: April 12, 2023, 05:18:35 PM »
Awww shit. Mine are doing the same and I didn't catch it. I think I am going to send them a message to complain, this is pretty unacceptable

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Component Deals & Selection / Re: Onirii hydraulic flat mount brakes
« on: April 11, 2023, 10:28:33 PM »
Reporting back after my first ride with the ZRACE XG calipers hooked up to LTWOO RX. Did a bunch of hill intervals, about 200ft/60m elevation on each, with decently steep terrain--so you could say it's a fair test.

Nothing too interesting re: power and modulation. It's about the same as the OEM LTWOO RX brakes. Brakes generate a TON of dust though, compared to the RX. My only point of reference are Shimano XT and Sram Rival hydro brakes (the original iteration)--I would say this setup definitely has better power and modulation compared to those old Sram brakes, and approaches that of the XT brakes.

Didn't detect any brake fade. That being said, I've never experienced brake fade, I think you really need to descend a serious mountain to experience that.

These brakes are light and look sharp, but I have to say, I am disappointed by how wide they are. They are a full 5mm wider than the LTWOO RX. If you care about marginal gains, these are definitely less aero than the LTWOO calipers, and I think that's nothing to scoff at. Most brakes will hide nicely behind the fork legs, but on the XG calipers, the cylinder port stands proud of the fork's silhouette. Having an extra 5x10mm square section in the wind near the leading edges probably costs a watt or so.

Now, the weight is really the big win here. Sub 100g calipers with pads is a big deal. Haven't done a final weigh-in on the bike to see what the improvement is, but I will report back once I do.

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Component Deals & Selection / Re: LTWOO RX hydro sets
« on: April 11, 2023, 10:10:31 PM »
I'll think about it. Part of me is just lazy to bleed the brakes, hence why I haven't done the install yet!  ;D

So this might sound like a bodge, but I actually have gotten away with bleeding using just the cone at the top. None of this syringe bleeding business that is demonstrated in the videos. I have gotten effective bleeds just by hooking everything up, putting a bleed cone at the top with oil, and squeezing the brakes a few times until the bubbles stop coming out. It takes a couple of sessions to get to 100% bled, but you get completely usable brakes after the first session, and then the few bubbles trapped in the caliper come up after a couple of shakedown rides. SUPER easy.

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Component Deals & Selection / Re: LTWOO RX hydro sets
« on: April 07, 2023, 12:54:46 PM »
Ah, sorry for the confusion, IIRC right in Trace Velo video it was noted that one of piwces under the levers were made out of plastic and he was concerned that it may break during shifting under load.


The fact that the levers are completely plastic and riveted in is worrisome for me. Francis Cade on youtube broke his left side shift lever (the carbon variety, no less!) on his first upshift. So they are indeed pretty fragile compared to western-brands' levers. But not so fragile that they are unusable, they just have a lower upper threshold on load; you have to make sure you have good cable routing and baby them on loaded shifts.

Like I said, you get what you pay for. LTWOO is not doing anything magical or nice like taking a smaller margin compared to Shimano. You are very much trading quality for price while preserving low-weight.

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Component Deals & Selection / Re: LTWOO RX hydro sets
« on: April 06, 2023, 09:14:56 AM »
Do their rim brake shifters still have plastic arms + internals as seen in Trace Velo video? How is the shifting? Debating between Sensah Team Pro and Ltwoo R9 shifters

Yes, the shift lever arms on the R9 are plastic. To boot, they are riveted in, making them irreplaceable. In terms of weight, this doesn't actually change anything, and I actually think the shift smoothness/crispness is decent, despite me running full-internal routing on the shift cables.

I'm not sure what you mean with the internals being plastic--AFAIK all the mechanical shifting bits are stamped steel, and the brake hydraulic housing (edit: I meant hydraulic piston assembly) is machined metal. Really, you get what you pay for, and with the LTWOO stuff you definitely are trading quality in for weight.

I think it's important to do the cost analysis--put all the parts, weights, and their costs in a spreadsheet, and compare. At the time I bought my stuff, ultegra groupsets were scarce, and I couldn't find them as a set without the cranks, which was important to me since I needed a crank-based power meter. When I ran the math, the R9 groupset was going to be less than half the price of going to Ultegra R8000 hydraulic for comparable weight. This math can change even more dramatically if you compare bundle deals, You can get a full Ultegra build kit for ~$1000USD, which is about exactly what I spent on my R9 groupset + power meter crank + ybn chain + sroad cassette + onirii rotors + bottom bracket.

In the short months since, it seems market pressures have eased dramatically and you can now easily find parted-out ultegra groupsets on AE for pretty cheap. For example, you can easily find R8020 brifters+calipers for $500 and a derailleur set for $120USD. At that point, the LTWOO R9 Carbon+ZRACE brifter set is only saving you ~$200, and I really do believe that Ultegra is bringing $200 worth of added value in terms of quality.

So in summary, I really think the LTWOO R9 set should be reserved for aggressively minimizing costs, and it will do that job well. If you can afford the extra $200 though, I would spring for the Ultegra set

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Component Deals & Selection / Re: LTWOO RX hydro sets
« on: April 05, 2023, 03:19:35 PM »
2x11 R9:
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805199439314.html

1x11 GR9:
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805199325832.html

2x12 RX:
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805199358686.html

They're finally selling the Ltwoo shifters w/ ZRace hydraulic calipers without the derailleurs. Prices are still a bit high since the full groupset was selling for about $200 alloy and $260 carbon at the last Anniversary sale. Hopefully for the next AliEx sale they should sell for much less. 12 speed still seems to be selling for quite more.

As an R9-carbon earlyish adopter, I believe buying a set of these + an ultegra r8000 F/R derailleur set is THE move. I paid ~425USD for my R9 set, plus $45 for the ZRace caliers, plus ~$100 for ultegra derailleurs. I would have immediately jumped at this bundle deal instead if it had been available 2 months ago.

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Component Deals & Selection / Re: Water bottle cage
« on: March 25, 2023, 10:03:22 PM »
Anyone have experience with those ultralight 7 gram cages?

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Component Deals & Selection / Re: Groupset News
« on: March 23, 2023, 02:07:21 PM »
I've seen an MBR video where they show how they did hit the frame/derailleur many times.And talk about a race Nino Shurter crashed on that side, but was able to continue the race without the need to straighten the hanger.

PeakTorque recently put out an analysis on it. Personally I am with him. Just because it's strong doesn't mean it should be. A hanger is ~$30. A carbon dropout will cost you the whole frame. And I also agree with his point that it further challenges manufacturing tolerances at the dropout, which we've seen time and time again is not something manufacturers do well.

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Component Deals & Selection / Re: Onirii hydraulic flat mount brakes
« on: March 23, 2023, 02:01:14 PM »
I bought this calipers this week. If they look good I'll swap out my ltwoo brakes. 

Nothing performance wrong with the ltwoo. I just don't like how much they weight and look. Everyone weighs the ltwoo without brackets which is wrong. With flat mount calipers you can mount without brackets but ltwoo you must use brackets.

Actually just did the same. I noticed the price on the set from ZRACE dropped to $45 for the anniversary sale. Weight of the calipers alone is supposedly 100g lighter compared to LTWOO. I suspect the ZRACE mounting hardware is also lighter. Fingers crossed!

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Component Deals & Selection / Re: LTWOO RX hydro sets
« on: March 15, 2023, 10:55:03 AM »
I also wish they'd start selling the hydraulic components separately, I don't really need the derailleurs. Ltwoo stuff works with the Shimano 11/12 speed pull ratio.

Has anyone confirmed if LTWOO left-side shifters are compatible with Shimano's front derailleurs?

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