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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
« on: August 15, 2021, 08:46:49 PM »

1) steerer is nice and smooth most of the way, but contains a nest of loose ends at the bottom.
Hard to capture without a scope, but is this normal?

2) There appears to be a void or delamination at the top of the tube (right by my thumb)
I mean, this will be cut, but is that an indicator of overall quality?

3) These weird irregularities near the fork.  Not gouges, but indents. Probably nothing.

4) looks like a bit of a hack job drilling the brake line hole.  Probably not an issue.  Just ugly

1. I do found this in some low quality carbon part like seatpost and handlebar, and i have had some carbon bike with big brand, they doesn't has this but pretty sure it won't be problem but correct me if i'm wrong

2 & 3 . shouldn't be problem hopefuly , i will get back at you later, i'm getting mine today let me see mine

4. Thank God it's hidden

Yeah the wait for the frame is a killer, I think I'm coming close to 2 months now and it's still awaiting paint and custom decals.

Which seatpost did you order? I can't find any chiner ones and the official SL7 posts are upwards of €200!

2 month and still awaiting paint? mine finished in 1 month and today i'm picking up the frame but i do hope nothing get wrong in the box , i do reccomend to try getting an update every week from chris ,

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
« on: August 15, 2021, 08:41:42 PM »
I am having a small issue with the seatpost and the expander/wedge.

I just realized that crank arm length, cleat system, sole height, and certainly the saddle rail-to-top are the determining factors for the seatpost insertion depth.

I've cut my seatpost a bit shorter than my target saddle height because I miscalculated the insertion depth -- it's primarily because I used 165mm crank instead of my usual 170mm. It became an issue as the seatpost is slipping on every ride even with reasonable tightening on the expander. I haven't applied carbon paste though.

After I checked the seatpost, I noticed that the contact area of the expander to the seatpost is too small. The contacts are mostly on the edges. Each slippage, the expander digs into the seatpost leaving two parallel scratch lines along the seatpost.

The solution should be to increase the contact area. Will carbon paste a solution here?

Other experiences with seatpost so far:

On each slippage, the seatpost became stuck around the wheel cutout area. I had to pull the seat system with a reasonable force. I used a bar around eye-level height, cover it with some clothes, hook the saddle on to it -- after I loosen the expander, and then jerk the bike down. I hope that this force is still within the designed operating force window.

I also noticed that the seat tube doesn't have uniform thickness along its run. It became thinner a few cm in. This might be the cause of some knocking sound someone noticed before.

i don't recommend about using the current seatpost, some guy in my town broke apart their seatpost because he doesn't fulfill the minimum seatpost insertion dept, but it takes a year for it to be happen, clearly its better to have a replacement and contact Chris for solution.

for Carbon Paste yes it works, i use park tool one and helps a lot in my previous bike *cheers

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
« on: August 13, 2021, 04:25:49 AM »
Finished the build last Saturday.

My first proper road bike, my first carbon frame. Nothing fancy.

I didn't build it myself. I brought most of the components to a bike shop in the neighborhood, and let the pro do it for me.

Everything is within expectation. I am satisfied with it, although I wish I had the patience to get the frame painted and to wait for some deeper wheels.

I had a concern that it would be too aggressive for me. It turned out that, with all of the supplied spacers, it's within my comfort. I could probably afford to remove the 0.5mm spacer.

Nice build mate
i will build mine soon, waiting for mine to be delivered within 2 days
anw is there any chance / possibility to change the dropbar?

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
« on: August 11, 2021, 08:45:40 PM »
Arg!  I don't know if I can accept this! 
It's so far from red I am speechless! I've emailed Velobuild, but not hopeful for a happy resolution.

On to stuff you want to hear:
56cm frame with HB010 bars
Frame weight w/axle: 1160g
Fork w/axle: 466g
Handlebars: 322g
Seat post: 244g
Hardware pack: about 260g (I still had it in the box balled up with shipping tape)

I'm quite anxious for how mine will looked like
he never sent me the pict of my painted frame and the frame almost arrived
i bet painting in your local shop would be the best option and if someday i want to order again would prefered my local shop
which is maybe even has lower cost of painting

Btw that fork is heavy 466 gram w axle
about the seatpost i think could be tuned with carbon saddle clamp

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
« on: August 03, 2021, 08:02:48 AM »
Try putting the number in here:
http://www.wxy-express.com/index.php/home/TrackingResult.html?l=en-us

It's shown me the first part of the journey.

sorry, i mean Chris hasn't give me any tracking number yet
and he promised to give me a photo after painting process
but he kinda dodge it and said already sent it to me also the EMS already picked up the package
is it normal with velobuild process?

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
« on: August 03, 2021, 06:40:58 AM »
Hi guys
i wanna ask about the tracking number from Chris
He said the EMS already picked the item and will update the tracking number but the tracking hasn't show up
is anyone had the same situation?

cheers*

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
« on: August 02, 2021, 04:21:36 AM »
I still promised to share some specs of my build, so hereby :).



Frameset: Velobuild VB-R-168 (O RLY?  ;D), Size 56
Wheelset: Farsports Kaze 35, 23mm (ext) width, DT Swiss 350, Sapim CX ray with brass nipples
Tires: Schwalbe Pro One EVO TLE (set-up tubelss with Schwalbe valves and Orange Seal endurance)
Bar: Two bolt Velobuild bar 420/100
Bottle cages: Tacx Ciro (Matt black)
Seat: Specialized power expert 155mm
BB: Shimano Dura Ace BB92
Crankset: Rotor ALDHU24
Chainrings: Rotor Q Rings Sram AXS, 48/35
Groupset: SRAM Force eTap AXS 2x12, 160mm discs, 10-28 cassette

I love the ride so far, the bike feels really fast and gives a great sense of control.

I do have one issue, even though I have tightened the seatpost to 7nm it somehow is making a sort of knocking sound if I stand up and sit down. It seems like the post has too much room to move in the seat tube... Anybody else experencing this?

Nice bike indeed
what's the final weight?

maybe should apply more carbon paste? never have an issue like that before

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
« on: August 01, 2021, 09:33:31 PM »
Apparently I will receive the correct bars, and it will still be shipped Monday.

For reference, design was finalized and payment received by VB on June 24.
So, that’s 5 and a half weeks.

He says 2 to 3 weeks, but 4 to 6 weeks fell within my expectations. 
Dont know how long shipping will take.

Chris just told me this morning that mine is already packed well
but i still don't know about the shipping and he doesn't provide the info but i hope its today

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
« on: August 01, 2021, 09:31:15 PM »
Bike has been well tested, beautiful.



Nice one
how's the ride feels? any huge different with branded one?

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Chris emailed me saying he could ship Monday, but with the 2-bolt bar and in 440/110
I kindly told him that I would like the original bar, in the requested size (420/110), and that it was OK if I had to wait - I am in no rush. 

Let’s see what the response is.

I’d rather wait for the correct order, than rush to have my wrists and shoulders jacked by the wrong sized bars.

I hope mine can be shipped in monday also

If you want it to be perfect, and you can wait, definitely try to get the original version. The clamp of the two-bolt version is noticeably smaller compared to the spacers and the cap. While from the photos I can find, the original seems to be matching them really well. It doesn't affect the functionality in any way, but it does irritate my eyes.


btw about the bar , i wil use another bar i have in stock , it won't be a problem right? i have Deda Alanera bars from aliexpress that i used before

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Yeah VB lately are being funny about deadlines, which wasn't the case when I ordered my 099 at the end of October as I got it the first week of December. I guess they are working with a different manufacturer/supplier which may be running behind, the 168 being a really popular design from how many frames they sold. Mine was supposed to be shipped by the end of March, but got shipped last week. Savage lol

In autumn last year I got an email notification of shipment, while last week they texted on skype the tracking number but no other notifications whatsoever. I guess texting them and ask is the better way

Chris promised me the paint will be finished yesterday but still no answer about it
Hope today will get news from him about the update
wow 4 month behind the schedule? that's not a good news for me

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It's plain matte finish. I didn't ask for any customizations. Note that it included the axle and 4 cage bolts which all are already installed when I opened the box.

I am 169cm with an inseam of approx 77cm, saddle height 66-67cm. The sizing tool from Specialized suggested me to go for the 52 but I decided to get the 49. My decision was primarily based on the effective-top-tube length. Fixing a stack that is too low should be easier than fixing a reach that is too far.

I haven't actually started my build, but I've already temporarily set them up to check things in the box and to get some idea of the finished build.

Reach-wise, with the 400/90 bar, I am pretty much satisfied with it. I am pretty sure that I won't need to stretch my upper body to access the hoods, and it doesn't feel too small. I'd get a bar with a longer stem if so.

The stack might be the one that is not ideal. It's simply aggressive* even with all of the provided spacers. If it's preferred to get more of an upright position, you might want to ask for extra spacers (it's probably ugly, but...).

I can't provide any real confirmations for now.

Hope that helps.

Edit: by aggressive I mean that there will be ≥5cm diff between top of the bar and top of saddle.

Thanks & appreciated for the info, maybe mine will be 1080-1100 (I ask to paint it light metallic blue) hope it will lighter though
but Chris haven't shipped it yet , its almost a month where he said he can finished it in 2 weeks  :'(
can't wait to see other final build and yours *cheers

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Received mine. I believe that I received all the components. With the 2-bolts bar.

Size 49, frame + axle is 1060g. Other components are around the same weight as others'.

The only disappointment is the computer mount on the bar that is not well aligned.

is it painted ? so 80+- gram for paint?
i'm about 167-168 cm height will size 49 good for me? if you don't mind how tall are you?
 ;D

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What kind of weights are your guys’ bikes coming in at? The 168 with mid level groupset is probably in the 18 lbs category right?
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If the frame is 980gr and Fork 400gr
with my equipment (105 r7020 with ultegra crank,Cassette,Rotor) + winspace hyper x 50mm
i would likely get it to 7,5 kg something

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Did my first 50km ride today! Love it!! Build went pretty smooth, only real pain was setting up the rear caliper without disc rubbing, but I managed to get it right in the end. Will post some more details later.



Looking good
mind to share the spec and weight?
still waiting mine to be shipped :'(

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