Here's the reply I received today.
And answered with your additional comments( Snacks ) 

thanks man for helping out, i really appreciate it. i never received the first email .

Check your spam folder, the answer maybe there.

i read your suggestion to check spam in another thread and already checked. unfortunately nothing in there 

Plus 1.5 on the ape index here   

haha yea im right there with ya. this frame would be perfect

 thanks for the suggestion and taking the time to respond!

Building the bike for me is half the fun. pretty much everything you just listed, all the research, is what i enjoy. Those close to me might say i enjoy the time spent learning something new and building more than using whatever it is i just put together.

although ive yet to build a mountain bike. ive built up two road bikes now, both chinese carbon frames so i get what you're saying. Ive actually posted one on this forum but i changed my name recently since i wasnt too fond of the original one. fortunately (unfortunately?) Ive also already had a pretty bad time with a company , tantan, so hopefully that experience is out of the way. I know most people here have had a much better time with them , and im glad for that. i just chalk it up to being the unlucky one in the bunch and nothing more.

that said, id still like to build my own bike. I have an idea of what parts to purchase aside from a specific frame so if you have any you'd recommend id really appreciate it.

Hi! Im very new to mountain bikes and id like to build myself a full suspension bike.  Ive been doing a bit of research and i think a trail mountain bike is what im looking for. ive read they're a good bike for all type of mountain biking. hopefully thats correct, otherwise if anyone has a suggestion for a better type of frame im all ears. i know the trails my friends ride have it all. hills, descents , jumps and they were saying some have slower technical sections so this is what lead me to look for more of all arounder. ive seen some companies list the type of mtb frame they are but others just have the name. Im assuming you can tell the type of frame based on the geo but im still not sure how to tell one type over another.

then there also different types of suspension. is one better than the next for different types of trails? or are they just different design based on manufacturer? ive read that vpp frames have good anti squat so ive been looking into those .although my buddy said i can get a lockout on the forks and shock so i dont need to worry about anti squat in the suspension. are lockouts commonly used? i see more people talk about dialing in suspension rather than relying on a lockout .

if anyone has any suggestions on a frame that would be great. i know they say buy nice or buy twice but if there is a cheaper frame that i can build up to try out the sport that would be preferred. Thanks!

nice man! looks good. im glad you had a better experience than i. looking forward to seeing the build.

Hey thanks!
The cost minus the groupset was about $1000. Although I got the wheels while they were on sale on 11/11.
I was actually worried about the same since I'm at 230lbs, I think that's around 104kg. I was assured by both velobuild and csc that it would be fine. There are a lot of hills in my area so I've had more than a few off saddle climbs and so far no issues. No power meter yet so I don't really know if I'm putting the same power to the bb as I did on my steel bike but I am going a hell of a lot faster.

what you're describing kind of sounds like what i used form the park tool kit.
one of the four cables it has is a long cable with a magnet on one end and a metal fitting that you can screw into shifter housing or the hydraulic hose on the other end.
so i pulled the magnet side through the handlebars first and then screwed the other side into the housing/hose and pulled them through using the cable. it did require a bit of force around the bends but wasnt too much trouble.

Honestly, reading other people stories and trying it with the ztto kit / other methods made the whole thing a bigger headache than it had to be. it really wasnt that bad with the right tool and it sounds like you already have something similar if not exactly the same so shouldnt be much trouble

Thanks man!

Guiding them through the frame was pretty easy all the way up to the head tube. The hard part was getting those through the handlebars. I could get either shifter cable or brake hoses through but not both because the handlebar has two 90 degree bends to pass them through. I was also trying to avoid purchasing the park tool cable routing kit since it's around $70 for just cables and magnets. I gave in after a few hours of unsuccessful attempts and purchased the kit . it made the whole thing a ton easier . Got it done in about 10-15min after that. 

Now to convince my friends to get internally routed frames so I can use this kit a bit more