The downside to constantly reviewing cheap frames is you eventually become apathetic and less attached towards them, as the entire process becomes monotonous. It's like the problematic nature of "fast fashion" but in the bike industry.

I live 15 minutes from the only two official Specialized flagship stores outside of California. I don't love the look of the new Tarmac SL8, but the specs are enough for me to consider dumping the majority of my cheap bike fleet to buy one.

Add to that smaller stems, weird C ring designs and short expander plugs and you get a recipe for disaster

I never ever ever use the supplied expander plugs from cheap Chinese brands. Besides being way too short, they usually don't grip the steer tube very well. I only use Neco Headset Expander in a size large, which can be found on Amazon. The extra weight is worth the extra security.

Side note: my frame shipped last night. The communication from Yishun has been very good thus far.

About the TT-x38, except for the fit, would you recommend the frame otherwise? Is it compliant?

Check this thread out:

https://chinertown.com/index.php/topic,4139.0.html

I'm actually still trying to understand why this frameset exists. The geometry is so extreme even by most major brand standards. I would be curious which companies Yishun produces for.

I contacted Yishun couple of days ago regarding their R068D. B2C is available.

R086-D-54cm frame, it is USD610
included with frame/fork/seat post/clamp/integrated handlebar/headset/front and rear skewers/stopwatch holder.
XDB delivery cost USD90 from China to USA
Paypal payment fee is 5%
Total amount is USD735

Sadly this is will most likely be my next (and final) frame to test/review for cheap Chinese road frames. Reviewing affordable frames is fun of course, but I've grown tired of the compromises to my bike fit. I'm very particular  Super long reach, low stack. This is a personal issue and no fault of any particular brand. It's probably not profitable for them. I'm just surprised more people have not had similar fit issues regardless of how they plan to use their bike.

My current Allez Sprint size 56 has a reach of 398mm. I just replaced my 130mm stem (slammed) for a 140 and it just "feels right". Also my Winspace T1500 size large has a reach of 393mm and the supplied 400/125 integrated cockpit (also slammed) has an effective stem length of about 145mm. Again it just "feel right".

The Yishun R068D has some visual cues to the current DARE VSRu aero frame which debuted at The Tour few weeks ago. Similar-ish geometry too. A size 54 Yishun R068D has a reach of 402 and a stack of 549. For me this is as about perfect as it gets. Plus LightCarbon / Yishun has been highly regarded here so I'm hoping this frame will actually become a permanent staple in my rotation.

1)  LightCarbon are MUCH better than Yoeleo ... Yoeleo are Miracle frames, which are absolutely not up to Yishun (LightCarbon parent) quality, and they are (sub) $500 quality frames.  Yoeleo are purely a brand, and one that charges a very large premium for apparently better customer service and in some cases ok paintjobs.  Miracle / Yoeleo are certainly better than VB, but that's not really saying much.

There is always new stuff to learn in the cycling industry. Thank you sir. I suspected a year ago that Yoeleo wasn't in control of their production line, which would make sense if Yoeleo are Miracle frames.

I've had my eye on Yishun for a while now, particularly their R086-D(Aero Road) frame. Loads of reach and a small stack. Can't remember if  Yishun is B2C or just B2B.

The more I research this company/factory the more I like what they're doing.

Whether or not their frames are open mold it's nice to see the perception of an actual brand at this price point. Decals, paint options, and solid customer service it seems. A company like this can help alleviate some of the anxiety for first time Far East frame buyers.

I'm kind of tempted to test one their aero frame in either white or chameleon. Even though I criticized them earlier in this thread