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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Elves Falath EVO 2023
« on: November 20, 2023, 07:38:27 AM »
Without commenting on the YouTubers, I think the best-value frame that has evidence of aero testing in development is probably the Elilee Blize (~$1700 shipped USD including bar).

Wheels, probably Hunt’s aerodynamicist line or the Zipp 303S? I cant think of a Chinese offering that has been developed in that manner.

Bars, EXS?

Seen some pretty poor quality finished elilee products. I'd steer clear. Elilee's marketing copy doesn't even talk about wind tunnel, velodrome or field testing. Their cfd testing was probably done by some dude off fiver, and it looks it, too. Looks about as slippery as sandpaper.

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Elves Falath EVO 2023
« on: November 18, 2023, 04:11:52 AM »
What I’m really surprised is that nobody (including Hambini) is reaming the Evo for its horrendous aerodynamic properties. Rectangular tube profiles and the fattest headtube in the game.

I reckon it's just because there are so many shit aspects of the frame, it'd take an eternity to list it all. Maybe his ssd can't store it all haha.

It’s so clearly a LARP of an aero bike.

This is by far the best comment ever on this forum. I'm gonna need to add it as my signature hahahaha. I'll remove it if you want, though.

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Elves Falath EVO 2023
« on: November 17, 2023, 06:39:59 AM »
Despite Hambini’s gripes about “other” YouTubers, Cam Nichols’s review had similar conclusions. His “carbon expert” guy had similar remarks about the Evo’s carbon quality—its shit.

What I’m really surprised is that nobody (including Hambini) is reaming the Evo for its horrendous aerodynamic properties. Rectangular tube profiles and the fattest headtube in the game. It’s so clearly a LARP of an aero bike.

I love how when the elves distributor was approached regarding cam nicholls' experience, he went and blamed it on the mechanic. Saying he didn't know how to assemble bikes correctly. Pretty bad look in my opinion.

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Yishun R086-D Aero Road
« on: November 15, 2023, 06:58:40 AM »
This is largely inaccurate.

Incorrect. But that's okay, you are entitled to be incorrect.

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Elves Falath EVO 2023
« on: November 14, 2023, 07:18:35 AM »
And to think that Elves head office and the UK distributor have both been in talks with Hambini for 6 months prior to the release of the review (the distributor told me this via email) ... I imagine the review could have been a whole lot worse.

Elves is on my hard avoid list.

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Component Deals & Selection / Re: Chinese cycling clothes
« on: November 14, 2023, 07:15:50 AM »
The Elastic Interface pad, I have in my YKYWbike and Cheji bibs is the real thing, Paris HP, https://www.elasticinterface.com/cycling-pad/crossover/ which was the same pad in my older DHB Aeron bibs. The newer DHB Aeron bibs have a custom Elastic Interface pad (which is what you can do if you order enough pads from Elastic Interface (like DHB, Assos, Rapha and many more brands).

That said, the Paris HP is older entry level pad. There are much better Elastic Interface pads available, but much more expensive. Think of the Paris HP as the Tiagra of Elastic Interface range. So Chinese brands like YKYWbike, Cheji and Rion are using a cheaper name pad to sell the products as premium.

I do like the Paris HP pad, it works well for me.

the paris hp pad i have on my dhb is defo different to my ykyiykyiuiyykbike one. maybe i got a dud, i dunno *shrug*. the quality of the bibs is good, but the pad is crapola. maybe my experience is different to others idk.

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Component Deals & Selection / Re: Chinese cycling clothes
« on: November 13, 2023, 09:31:37 PM »
Update on the Cheji skinsuit

Wore it for today's TT, which meant 110km round trip.

As with previous experience with Cheji bibs and that chamois, started getting discomfort after over three hours in saddle. Still survived the slog home into the head/crosswind.

Otherwise very comfortable with no straps digging into my shoulders.

The blue to white to orange gradient fade.

86cm inseam

And it did not crush my nuts, two hours aero on the hoods and drops, two hours causal ride home on the tops and hoods.
Not bibs but skinsuit. The bottom half finishes just below the belly button. TThe natural stop required a little effort.

When I put then on, thought the legs were long, but photo (which I have not got of phone) has them sitting at about the same length as M MAAP and S Pedal Mafia bibs I wore last week.

Gave mine a whirl the other day, love the thing. Hopefully it holds up over time. I grabbed another for aud47 all up on the 11.11 and with some coins.

Really like the chamois a lot, think it's on par with my higher end chamois honestly. In saying that, I don't ride for over 3 hours often, so don't have any fair long ride comparison.

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Component Deals & Selection / Re: Chinese cycling clothes
« on: November 13, 2023, 09:22:15 PM »

YKYWBIKE Cycling Bib Shorts Men Mountain Bottom With Elastic Interface Cushion
https://m.aliexpress.com/item/1005005495749706.html

I bought the elastic interface ykywbike bibs not too long ago also as an experiment. Pretty sure the elastic interface pad is fake. It's really entirely different from the dhb bibs I have, yet it's supposedly the same model elastic interface pad used in both. Completely different density, nowhere near as comfortable, seems sweatier, meh whatever, the quality of the bibs seem ok but I'm certain the pad is just a regular chinese crappy pad with some fake branding.

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Component Deals & Selection / Re: 1st time builder - frame checks
« on: November 13, 2023, 06:51:19 AM »
Check press fit bb shells with calipers and make sure its in spec.

callipers won't be accurate enough to tell if it's out of spec unless it's out by a few football fields

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Yishun R086-D Aero Road
« on: November 12, 2023, 01:46:51 PM »
I think Yishun updated R086-D's geometry. I dunno but i believe it got even crazier than before.

Size 540's stack-reach ratio is now a whooping 1.31? WTF is Yishunbike thinking and what is this bike for? I hope it's just a mistake on their end.

For people with really long arms, long torso and short legs. Bit of a weird one, that's for sure.

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Yishun R068D
« on: November 09, 2023, 07:05:42 AM »
r096.
I ask to yishun and they were really fast to responde.
unfortunatly the frame is not in the warehouse and is not planned to build a small quantity so i think that i need to change my project
in alternative they propose 1018 frame, looks amazing but the geometry doesen't fit me very well (too much stack and to short reach, picture attached)

Was just asking since the title of this thread is Yishun R068D and I have some photos of those built up.

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Yishun R068D
« on: November 08, 2023, 05:44:52 PM »
i'm also interested in yishun R096-D frame.
in size 58 is really close to the geometry that i'm looking for.
Anyone has additional information about that frame, in particular pictures of the full bike.

thanks

R096 or R068?

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Component Deals & Selection / Re: Chinese cycling clothes
« on: November 08, 2023, 05:36:21 PM »
Update on the Cheji skinsuit

Wore it for today's TT, which meant 110km round trip.

As with previous experience with Cheji bibs and that chamois, started getting discomfort after over three hours in saddle. Still survived the slog home into the head/crosswind.

Otherwise very comfortable with no straps digging into my shoulders.

The blue to white to orange gradient fade.

86cm inseam

And it did not crush my nuts, two hours aero on the hoods and drops, two hours causal ride home on the tops and hoods.
Not bibs but skinsuit. The bottom half finishes just below the belly button. TThe natural stop required a little effort.

When I put then on, thought the legs were long, but photo (which I have not got of phone) has them sitting at about the same length as M MAAP and S Pedal Mafia bibs I wore last week.

Mine came yesterday, really impressed from first impressions. I like the shape and density of the chamois, and the material is really stretchy and thin. Fits nicely! Time will tell if it holds up. Going to ride it today for the first time m

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: OEM brand
« on: November 06, 2023, 08:29:00 AM »
Who does winspace oem for?

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Yishun R068D
« on: November 05, 2023, 05:55:24 PM »
Have you already received the frame? If so, how do you like it? Thanks!

Not yet mate. Still another month to go I think!

Got pretty much everything ready to go now, just waiting on the frame and a few other little bits I've got on order.

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