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29er / Re: Chinese Santa Cruz/AM831
« on: March 28, 2020, 04:32:58 AM »
I wish the Marzzocchi Bomber Z2 would work for this frame. That's what I'd like to use, but it only goes up to 140mm. That stinks.

It will work fine, probably best cupled with a 210x52,5 rear shock (140mm) instead of full stroke 55

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29er / Re: Chinese Santa Cruz/AM831
« on: March 27, 2020, 04:16:43 PM »
Any real sample pictures?

Not yet! It should be matter of days, stay tuned

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29er / Re: Chinese SC/AM831 Group Buy
« on: March 27, 2020, 04:15:47 PM »

Many thanks for your organizing job !

No problem. Remains to be seen of we can pull this off but it's definitely worth a shot, especially if we can get the shock at a good price.

I'm waiting an answer from Eddy about shipping cost to Italy, but probably I'll order 2 x 17,5" frames instead of 1.

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29er / Re: Chinese SC/AM831 Group Buy
« on: March 27, 2020, 04:14:19 PM »
Hi all..i was looking for  29 carbon from China...this looks promising but will we ever see at least real sample.....
I am In for a Large (~19")matte black ..i am 6.0,is this ok size ,can't figure it out 
 if we can hit the 30 frame for $499.   
Shipping to Zagreb ,Croatia

Hi and welcome to the forum!
At 6,0 you're in between 2 sizes; Santacruz fit say 5'9"/6',1" -Large (17,5" Haideli)  6',0"/6',4" - XL (19 Haideli) both with 50mm recommended stem length.
Being a new school geo frame you should be right with 17,5"...I don't know what trails look like in your surrond, that could lead for the right size choice.



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Sales & Classifieds / LCFS902 19" for sale
« on: March 27, 2020, 01:58:56 PM »
Hi everyone, I'm selling my Light Carbon LCFS902 frame in 19", Rear shock included.
Link to Ebay auction, can sell outside ot it if someone here is interested.
Located in Italy, can ship within Europe for 25€, to USA should cost around 60/70€, will check for it if needed.

https://www.ebay.it/itm/133372451586

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29er / Re: Chinese Santa Cruz/AM831
« on: March 26, 2020, 06:59:48 AM »
Well, the system in the piggyback is also different, with a bladder on the DVO and an IFP on the triair, which could explain the different pressure ranges for both.

sure, as told before! Bladder should deliver a slightly better transition than a floating piston and reduce cavitation

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29er / Re: Chinese Santa Cruz/AM831
« on: March 26, 2020, 05:33:07 AM »
thanks for sharing that link! Only difference seem to be the pressure range in the piggyback: 170/200psi DVO and 190/240 Suntour.
Sr Suntour manufacture for DVO and many other brands, as the biggest company in the market.

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29er / Re: Chinese Santa Cruz/AM831
« on: March 26, 2020, 04:03:07 AM »
@Jotegr

you're right about hardware concern, but from my experience they improved this with last model released. I'd love to swap all hardware with titanium.
We have to put hands on this frame to check for it, but could be possible that original Hightower hardware fit

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29er / Re: Chinese Santa Cruz/AM831
« on: March 26, 2020, 03:58:05 AM »
The tri air is a solid option for the price though it's only available in 210x50 as I was looking to buy one for my Ican p9. I can recommend the sr suntour durolux fork and those do go on sale often. For the price, they're an awesome fork. The kydex is really simple to work on. Just oven the piece for a few minutes, mould it on the bb/downtube then ziptie to hold.

Sr Suntour list the Triair also in 210x55 on their official website

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29er / Re: Chinese Santa Cruz/AM831
« on: March 25, 2020, 02:40:12 PM »
frame finish: unpainted carbon is always covered with a matt or gloss clear coat to protect it.
I'll go with a raw (non clear coated) one because I'll paint it DIY with 2K spray paints.
As for fork choice, I had experience with Pike, Lyrik, DVO Diamond and XFusion. If I were you I would look for some discount next months: 2021 models will come soon and due to international crisis some big shop has just started with big deals.
By the way I would stay in the 44mm rake.

Kydex
I've never used it yet, just arrived in my hand and will try to make a fork fender out of it, to make some practice.
Downtube protector will be molded direct onto the frame before I'll paint it.
Will shape it in the right size with cutter/Dremel, heat as per instructions and place on downtube.
I think mine will be longer than Santa Cruz one.
If someone won't go for Kydex or drill and rivet the frame to fit the originalprotector, RockGuardz have a carbon skid at 40£.

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29er / Re: Chinese Santa Cruz/AM831
« on: March 25, 2020, 11:47:27 AM »
I haven't seen a fork offset in any of the info though the Hightower is based on a 42 or 44 mm offset.

Anyone think there would be much problem with a 51mm offset? I can't imagine it would change things all that much? So far I'm finding mainly 51 and 4X seems pretty rare though I'm looking at 2019 forks that are on sale.

Also, I assume they chose one set of dimensions and there won't be any type of flip chip or different linkages available.  It looks like the dimensions are based on the high setting? I haven't ridden the Hightower but suspect that's what I would probably use anyways.

Wonder if there will be the little fender to help protect shock and linkage? Probably not,  but I hope they at least include an integrated down tube protector.

Has anyone tried replacing the bearings in these frames with something high quality like the enduro bearings? Did you notice a difference?

And I probably should ask this somewhere else...but does the matte carbon hold up ok?  Or does a gloss finish do better?

frame should have a flip chip on lower linkage, but I'm waiting a confirm from Eddy too.
About frame protections: asked Eddy, he told me to wait until first frames will be ready...but usually chinese frames doesn't have them.
I've ordered a chainstay+ seatstay guard and rear shock fender from a Santa Cruz dealer; they're pretty cheap. As soon I'll have my frame, I'll mold a downtube protector from a sheet of Kydex and double tape it to the frame.
As a new geo frame, it's designed around 44mm forks rake: I'll run mine on a 160mm Ohlins sporting a 46mm.
Going with a classic 51mm rake should slow  a bit in turns and directions change, probably a little more stable on straight riding.

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29er / Re: Chinese Santa Cruz/AM831
« on: March 25, 2020, 11:40:03 AM »
About shocks, i bought a Sr Sountour Triair 3CR for 280eur on a bike shop, june 2019. They are still around that price, in shops. And i am quite sure that this shock has at least equal quality and performance of a RS.

That shock is a "copy" of mine DVO Topaz T3, a great shock imho; online is around 290€ and I can suggest it on a budget bike build without loosing performance an tuneability.

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I think it's actually the opposite, the Topaz is a "copy" of the Triair but with a bladder instead IFP.
I will use a McLeod or a Triair (210x50 to get about 130mm rear travel), I'm still thinking about it.

Suntour Triair was released later on 2019, DVO Topaz is on the market from 3 or 4 years! Haven't had a chance to put hands on a Triair
You're right about internal differences, Suntour work on a IFP


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29er / Re: Chinese Santa Cruz/AM831
« on: March 25, 2020, 03:13:33 AM »
About shocks, i bought a Sr Sountour Triair 3CR for 280eur on a bike shop, june 2019. They are still around that price, in shops. And i am quite sure that this shock has at least equal quality and performance of a RS.

That shock is a "copy" of mine DVO Topaz T3, a great shock imho; online is around 290€ and I can suggest it on a budget bike build without loosing performance an tuneability.

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29er / Re: Chinese Santa Cruz/AM831
« on: March 24, 2020, 05:30:31 PM »
Re: Cane creek coils thicker than fox


It depends on the weight of the spring. The few bikes I've seen on instagram or whatever seem to be on medium frames and therefore lighter riders. AFAIK the guy running the cane creek shock was also using a progressive coil. I don't know if those are any bigger or smaller than the others.

Progressive coil on the CC for sure...I'd thought all coils are of the same size, but I don't run any from the marvellous years 2k and freeride movement  ;D

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29er / Re: Chinese SC/AM831 Group Buy
« on: March 24, 2020, 04:03:31 PM »
Yes, there is an additional charge for paint. You can have any Pantone color you want but I think the ones included in the first post of this thread will be a bit cheaper if I understand everything correctly.

This thread was just to gauge interest to see if there was enough. As we approach the target number of 30, I'll set up some type of group excel sheet where everyone can enter their official order including paint color. We're pretty close currently so I'll do that fairly soon.

I'll put an image ad at the top of the form linking to the sheet so that everyone knows to go to it and enter their order details. There are still some things to work out but since the frame isn't even ready yet, I figure that gives us time to get things organized.

Many thanks for your organizing job !

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