Good point. I’m aware of the relation between spring and leverage curves, I was just trying to keep my question relatively short — and coming from a GT Force (avg leverage 2.79 and only moderately progressive), I was thinking of the fact that even the max 700lb coil felt too soft for me on that bike with the limited support the Bomber CR damper gives.

Looking at the kinematics graphs for these bikes, I thought maybe it was progressive enough given the low average, at least for a progressive coil rather than a regular linear one. But the context you gave made me look again and I definitely take your point. The dip near the end of travel in particular isn’t great for coils.

The average leverage also had me thinking of damping, as the main 185x55 air shock I have to spare is a DPX2 with standard Medium tune. That was overdamped for my Force (different models/years have shipped with both Low and Medium tunes), so I was thinking less leverage meant it would be even more overdamped for a 1001. But of course you reminded me that it’s not that straightforward, the curve matters here too.

I might just get a 1002 and a DVO Topaz for it — the same stock damping tune that helped my Force because it’s lighter than Fox or RS’ Mediums, and it’s very tunable for different spring curves — but I wanted to think through all the possibilities before I gave up on using one of my existing 185x55 shocks with a 1001.

Well with 27.5” wheel and 2.6” rocket ron on 30mm id rim this is what it looks like. Plenty of clearance! Seems with 29” wheel side clearance would be similar.

What’s your BB height like? I’ve been thinking about a mixed wheel setup and am trying to decide whether that will work in my area (Maine) because I ride a lot of very rocky trails where pedal strikes are a big issue.

Hi, which size would you choose for 170cm Bodyheight?

Depends a bit on your proportions (whether you have long or short legs, prefer a long or short reach etc). If this was the FM1001/1156 135mm version we were talking about, that runs about a size small in terms of reach so you’d probably be between a medium and large.

Looking at the numbers, the 1002/1166 runs more or less similar to typical progressive enduro bike sizing so you’d probably be a Medium for this bike.

From searching this site, looks like others are actually using ones that are larger than what the dealer is saying.  They're saying using these two. 

1. M8x22.86 - https://thelostco.com/products/the-real-2021-fox-mounting-hardware?variant=32303772631121
2. M8x30 -  https://thelostco.com/products/the-real-2021-fox-mounting-hardware?variant=32303770370129

Let me know if this is incorrect.  Thx.

I stand corrected, 22.86 (aka 8x23) should be the right size.

It felt acceptable at the ~20mm flex in the video and now if feels like roughly half that.  I haven't had it out on the trail yet but I assume it will be even more predictable.     

I got these M18x27mmx1mm - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07NRXPYDG but I might experiment more.  The bolts are M16 (I think) and then ~2mm x ~2mm unthreaded surface to sit on the bearing.  I might try two of the M18 washers (cut to the size of the bolt head) and one or two M16 on the surface that touches the bearing to make sure there is good contact.

I do have the new shock in, first ride with it wasn't great.  Way too harsh even after I let it sag to 35% with rebound full slow and LSC open (full soft). Fork and shock recommended PSI, rebound, LSC, and fork HSC have all been way off for me.  Removed two tokens from the fork, one token from the shock, and added the MegNeg with a single band.  That seems to be what most of my near-clyde brethren are doing so I'll check that out.  Going to borrow a ShockWiz to speed this along.

I'll add some pictures of the bolt/washer combo and maybe a new flex video with it on the turbo trainer.

What is the damping tune? If it’s stock aftermarket Medium then it’s probably over-damped. The closest comparable tune (2018-2021 SC Bronson) is Low/Low with 2.5 tokens in the positive chamber, not sure about negative spacers if any.

Of course lots of people aren’t super happy with the stock tune on SC bikes but it seems like a good starting point.

I really want to get in on the group buy soon but only if I get some independent confirmation from someone who’s received a revised frame/rear triangle that this issue has been fully resolved in new frames that will go out for the buy. Otherwise I’ll wait and/or buy a different frame for my winter build.

I have persistent problems with my current Chinese carbon fat bike fork and its carbon plug loosening over the course of snow season due to the shearing forces of the snow pushing/twisting on the fork. So I’d like to get something with an alloy steerer….which is unusual for affordable carbon solid forks.

So I’m looking at suspension forks, and I don’t want another Bluto. Found my last one (now dead with a shattered integrated lower bushing) pretty underwhelming, particularly in the cold. Mastodon Pro EXTs are basically nonexistent AFAIK. Which brings me to the inverted option.

There’s Wren with an improved damper, cold tolerant replacement damper option, and keyed stanchions for stiffness since there’s no arch. I also happen to know Kevin Wren through social media but wouldn’t ask for a discount in these crazy times. A very similar but cheaper version of the same fork body is sold by DNM.

Anyone have experience with either the Wren or DNM versions or both? I’ve heard the DNM is halfway decent but would like more first hand experience. Can’t find many reviews online.