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Who can return it? Did I !miss something on us being able to return it?

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I hope the flexing is curable, but other than that I love mine. It's lighter than all my other recent bikes, and that's noticeable going up hills. And I am not noticing any real bobbing going uphill. It just chugs along, and I don't seem as tired when I hit the top.  Seems to have great traction for techy uphills also. Basically, I'm not noticing any drawbacks with the long travel when comparing it to my shorter travel bikes. I'd rather just grab this bike to ride than my 125mm bike.

But I really want the rear end tightened up. The 3d printed shims helped a ton, and hopefully JJJ's fix will totally fix it.

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29er / Re: New Enduro Frame FS830
« on: December 24, 2021, 12:02:27 PM »
Merry Christmas, Eddy

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29er / Re: The Shiny New AM831 Group Buy (A) Thread!
« on: December 16, 2021, 06:18:50 PM »
I think it was announced last year. And I remember they sent out some of the smaller frames already. There's a thread on here with a guy who painted his like a yellow Pivot Firebird.

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29er / Re: The Shiny New AM831 Group Buy (A) Thread!
« on: December 16, 2021, 03:52:56 PM »
The 830 looks awesome, but I agree with you. From the way the fix was handled, I don't really want to risk an early buy.

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29er / Re: The Shiny New AM831 Group Buy (A) Thread!
« on: December 03, 2021, 01:53:02 PM »
I put my name on the bolts list.  Measurements to come later.

Same

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29er / Re: The Shiny New AM831 Group Buy (A) Thread!
« on: December 02, 2021, 10:14:28 PM »
Back again with some comments on the upper link bearing mount.

On the left, the actual mount, to scale. On the right, the nearest correct way to do it - an elastic retainer ring holding the bearing in its recess.



This is a suggested (IMHO good) correction for the existing frames, to scale, using a standard pair of 6703 bearings that fit in the recesses for the bolt heads. Needs a new pair of bolts as drawn - I have a mechanic workshop in the neighborhood, and will check if they can do this and for how much. Probably cheaper if I can order a certain number of pairs. A minor issue is the tolerance of the carbon width (approx. 3mm) between the two bearings, and whether the inner race of the new bearing will rub against the carbon. I've ordered a pair of 6703s to experiment with.





The top one with the elastic retainer ring doesn't make sense to me. It looks like the linkage and the carbon are different shapes on the solution on the right from the original on the left

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29er / Re: The Shiny New AM831 Group Buy (A) Thread!
« on: December 02, 2021, 12:04:53 PM »
Count me in for any purchase that's potentially a solution.

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29er / Re: The Shiny New AM831 Group Buy (A) Thread!
« on: November 30, 2021, 12:07:04 AM »
It is worth showing the link assembly issues with pictures rather than just words to get the message better across, so I've drawn some (not to scale, dimensions exaggerated, showing the principles).

This is the 831 assembly of the upper link to one of the rear triangle eyelets, as far as I could make it out. Grey is the aluminum link, black the carbon triangle, blue the ball bearing and pink the screw. The screw presses the inner race of the bearing against the link, so the screw and inner race are one piece with the link. There is some clearance between the screw head and the triangle so that the parts can rotate with respect to each other.





This assembly would be alright if the two eyelets of the triangle (only one shown) were perfectly rigid relative to each other, but that is not the case. So, what prevents the outer bearing from sliding out of the triangle eyelet (to the left) is in practice only the press force of the outer bearing race in the eyelet, as Maffly stated.

Inevitably, when the triangle is submitted to lateral forces, the bearing will end up sliding to this position, where the eyelet contacts the screw head, and rubs against it as the triangle and link rotate relative to each other. After a while, clearance may build up between the outer race and the eyelet, whereby the bearing will move freely in and out... The rubbing with the screw head will cause wear and potentially loosen the screw...





The situation wouldn't be improved if the bearing were pressed from the outside. The bearings should be in the link, not the triangle, as per the SC assembly shown below.





Yellow is a tube for taking up some of the axial force exerted on the bearings by the screw. Here, the bearings are mounted in the link and rely on the rigidity of the link between the two eyelets. The bearings cannot slide out.

Dammit, the 831 link and triangle need to be redesigned!!

A not too drastic redesign would be to provide something for keeping the bearing in the eyelet, such as a retainer ring.

What about the assembly of the lower link to the triangle? I haven't looked close at that yet.


What about the gap to the left of the bearings? The one between them and the aluminum linkage. Is that a concern?

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29er / Re: The Shiny New AM831 Group Buy (A) Thread!
« on: November 29, 2021, 01:34:05 PM »
This is my first Chinese frame. Has something like this occurred with a frame before? Did the manufacturer do anything about it?

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29er / Re: cybrsrce AM831 build
« on: November 29, 2021, 01:30:37 PM »
This is my first Chinese frame. Has something like this occurred with a frame before? Did the manufacturer do anything about it?

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29er / Re: The Shiny New AM831 Group Buy (A) Thread!
« on: November 28, 2021, 02:22:19 PM »
You can count me as on having problems with flexing in the frame. I even posted a vid in the other thread. Really hope there is a fix to this. A simple fix would be great, but even if it's buying a new linkage or rear triangle I just hope a good fix comes.

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29er / Re: cybrsrce AM831 build
« on: November 24, 2021, 01:54:40 AM »
Yeah, I am not happy with the flexing. I am hoping to find a solution  for it. Thanks again for the work you guys are doing on this.

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29er / Re: cybrsrce AM831 build
« on: November 23, 2021, 09:05:34 PM »
Here is mine flexing:

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29er / Re: cybrsrce AM831 build
« on: November 23, 2021, 09:05:02 PM »
I have a video of mine flexing, but can't figure out how to attach it here.

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