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29er / Re: Epic Evo Clone
« on: June 07, 2023, 10:08:09 PM »
Quote from: darkening on June 07, 2023, 09:29:37 PM
Sorry, I am new for this rear shock standards, confusing. I plan to buy this one. Looks like it is standard:
https://www.tradeinn.com/bikeinn/en/rockshox-sidluxe-ultimate-rl-shock/137670131/p

And I have no idea yet, what else I have to buy to be able to mount that shock on this Evo clone frame. :(

Do you have photos of what airwolf offers? That’s interesting, they do not advertise that. I wonder about the quality differences. From ali, Airwolf weight numbers are heavier.

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29er / Re: Epic Evo Clone
« on: June 06, 2023, 12:00:06 AM »
Quote from: darkening on June 05, 2023, 10:58:47 PM
Thanks, found it. I've liked the painting.
What is the benefit of updated linkage and yoke gives?


btw, this shock RockShox SIDLuxe Ultimate RL 190x40 will fit this frame?:
https://www.tradeinn.com/bikeinn/en/rockshox-sidluxe-ultimate-rl-shock/137670131/p

The new linkage? That I am not sure of. I haven’t asked him yet. I feel sort of bad, he always seems busy and i’ve asked him like 25 questions about his frame lol. I hope he knows I do want to buy, that i’m not just kicking tires and being neurotic. It appears to be the same dimensions as before, so you probably just improved weight/structure.

The shock question: Yes. According to AWST seller, he says a 190x40 fits, but that he recommends a 190x45 eye to eye shock (Not the Epic screw on one) for its simplicity and to realize the full travel of the frameset. Btw, according to leverage ratios of 2:1, you will be getting about 88-95mm of travel with that 45mm stroke. With 40mm you should theoretically expect 80-83mm of travel.

Luckily for you, that shock’s aircan can be screwed off and you can remove the 5mm bumper to extend the stroke to 45. That’s what I plan to do myself actually. I don’t know exactly how yet as I haven’t done so  :P

I hope someone who knows more about suspension can confirm, the leverage ration of 2:1 calls for roughly a M compression L rebound in Rockshox, is that right?

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29er / Re: Epic Evo Clone
« on: June 05, 2023, 04:16:12 PM »
Quote from: darkening on June 05, 2023, 02:02:33 PM
Airwolf sells this frame with 2 options: EV linkage and EP linkage? What to choose? I do not have a rear shock yet. Only 110mm SID fork. I plan to build XC 100\110 bike. So standard epic geo wold be fine. thanks!

https://aliexpress.ru/item/1005005099496183.html

That depends. Do you want to use a normal eye to eye shock? Go EV (Epic EVO). If you want the threaded shock, used for in the Brain configuration, go EP (Epic).

If you’re not installing and using a brain, why get the frame with the Brain rear end? Get the EVO package… I would buy the one offered by AllStar cycling, his name is AWST Cycling Tactics on ali. He has an updated structure linkage and yoke. As of like a month ago.

 

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29er / Re: Epic Evo Clone
« on: June 04, 2023, 08:45:11 PM »
Quote from: wwwru on June 04, 2023, 08:42:17 PM
I asked people on the EPIC Evo Facebook page to give some rough measurements of the rear triangle, they they did not match up at all to that of the regular Epic or to what I received from Airwolf.

My guess would be because of your Brain rear triangle. But if not matching up to the OEM, then that means Airwolf doesn’t use a 1:1. AWST does, they use the EVO rear, 1:1.

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29er / Re: Epic Evo Clone
« on: June 03, 2023, 10:57:17 PM »
Quote from: ilyamaksimov on June 02, 2023, 12:03:01 AM
I will read your comments about this frame with great pleasure and interest. How well the frame is made, how reliable it is, how rigid it is in bending and twisting

I will give you a detailed of a report as I can! I would love to see more people on this frame, as long as they accept it is not an Epic Evo and are ok with the 90mm suspension  :D

I wish I could know what happened to the member who was 3D printing his linkage...

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29er / Re: Spcycle 2023 New Travel 120mm Super Light 29er full suspension frame
« on: June 02, 2023, 12:52:52 PM »
Quote from: ASt on May 29, 2023, 04:06:56 PM
dunno, I bought the frame directly from their website...

Doesn’t matter, it’s their product, they’ll answer. I’ve never been really ignored through Aliexpress

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29er / Re: Epic Evo Clone
« on: June 02, 2023, 09:03:19 AM »
Quote from: wwwru on June 02, 2023, 04:51:14 AM
Linkage layout is what increases the leverage ratio on the epic. To accommodate the new linkage, rear triangles are different on the epic vs Evo. Front triangles are identical.

Yes, we are on the same page. There is no brain involved on the frame I am personally looking at from AWST. This is the one is as seen from post #20 The seller confirmed his rear Brain triangle and EVO triangles are 1:1. It is slightly different from your experience with Airwolf.

The only difference is the yoke and linkage, which the seller confirmed this morning that they've all been updated to the one shared in the photo on the left by ilyamaksimov from post #74. Looks to have been made more 'minimal' or refined. It is still not the 110 or more in travel, but even if it is 95, I think that will be sufficient for my application. That 438 chainstay geo paired with my 120 SID, I think I will be happy.


As far leverage ratio goes, it looks like we are still looking at 1:2 as shown in the '21 Epic w Brain curvature due to that older geo linkage. I like small bump compliance, but also need protection from bottoming out. What shock tune in Rockshox would serve this ratio? 

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29er / Re: Epic Evo Clone
« on: June 01, 2023, 11:32:40 PM »
Quote from: ilyamaksimov on June 01, 2023, 10:34:18 PM
my epicHT from spcycle...

attaching a suspension link from epic evo will not work, different chainstay. On a copy of the chainstay from the brain epic, they simply removed the hole under the brain

My friend, AWST sells 1:1 EVO front and rear triangles, but the linkage and yoke is a copy of the geo of the Epic w/ brain. Idk why, probably less carbon strength needed for that leverage ratio, either way i think i’m getting it.

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29er / Re: Epic Evo Clone
« on: June 01, 2023, 02:40:25 PM »
Quote from: ilyamaksimov on June 01, 2023, 10:36:38 AM
leverage ratio of 1.9, that is, from the usual epic. A shock with 45mm will give you 85-90mm of travel. For use on rough terrain, this is quite enough.

If you buy, then with great interest I will read more or less old reviews. Since I'm not ready to risk and buy this frame blindly :)

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I had a carbonda 936, it's a great frame. Now copy epic HT compared to carbonda is a cheap frame, so I am very careful about copy epic suspension

My Carbonda 936 is too small for me, I am trying to sell it. I rode it 5 times.

Epic HT from which seller? I bought that as well from Spcycle and it cracked on the first test ride around the chainstay near the brake posts. Terrible and waste of time...

I doubt I will make suspension like the Epic EVO with this frame, but I do want to understand what was altered and if it's doable to attach the link/yoke of the epic evo and everything match up. Reading the original conversations, there are some inconsistencies, possibly they misunderstood each other.

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29er / Re: Epic Evo Clone
« on: June 01, 2023, 09:38:50 AM »
Quote from: ilyamaksimov on June 01, 2023, 02:52:18 AM
looks like the frame is still in the process of being improved...

Very interesting. I am in communication with the seller from AWST, which your photo on the left looks to have a watermark for. What i’ve learned is:

The triangles are 1:1 copies of the original. That goes for the Brain triangle and EVO triangle. It’s the linkage that has been reworked… he says “the size is different” but doesn’t elaborate further. I wouldn’t want to drop money on the carbon linkage for it to fit but snap the rear as it hasn’t been tested to take that sort of load. I’m likely going to ask about that linkage and if there’s some sort of development recently done there I think i’ll just buy it. And pick up a used shock for it.

The seller recommends a 190x45mm shock. When asked what the max travel setup that I can have with his frame he says “Maximum stroke is 105mm. Maybe less than 100mm of travel”  ???

I’m still unsure of the leverage ratio to expect, here’s the two options. or maybe something in between…

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29er / Re: Epic Evo Clone
« on: May 30, 2023, 12:51:10 PM »
Quote from: ilyamaksimov on May 30, 2023, 12:12:09 AM
you must first figure out what it is made of) while I’m just studying, in fact there is no technical information, the sellers on Ali also don’t know anything or don’t want to tell ...

It's a good point, but the listing on the seller's site definitely has some reviews and good experiences on it. I asked AWST through whatsapp, he says with a 190x45 shock you get about 100mm of travel. That is decent enough for me. But I agree, there's a lack of clarity on info. The geo chart is even for the older Epic w/ brain. Sigh...

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29er / Re: Epic Evo Clone
« on: May 29, 2023, 02:48:57 PM »
Quote from: ilyamaksimov on May 21, 2023, 04:11:10 AM
this bushings or bearings? (marked on the photo)

Looks like you're onboard too!

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29er / Re: Spcycle 2023 New Travel 120mm Super Light 29er full suspension frame
« on: May 29, 2023, 11:50:17 AM »
Quote from: ASt on May 25, 2023, 03:03:49 PM
I'm glad to hear that they took care of your problem. I haven't an answer yet. My frame squeaks terribly at the bottom bracket and there are cracks around it.

If I were you I would shoot them a message on Aliexpress.

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29er / Re: Epic Evo Clone
« on: May 29, 2023, 11:45:04 AM »
Quote from: plloppii on March 08, 2023, 09:15:52 PM
Thing is, I actually measured the rear travel with the new linkage I designed, and I actually measured around 130mm of rear travel. So its definitely possible, but I'm not sure what my linkage has done to the rest of the geometry.
I also heard some disturbing creaks from the rear triangle when moving it to full compression.

Wow, I appreciate you guys spearheading this. I am now looking at the same AWST “Epic Evo”. It certainly is an attractive package. What’s the max travel I could get on the rear? What shock dims? In other words, is there a path here with the AWST "Evo" frame to get 100 mm of travel minimum? I'd be happy with that. I'm not trying to snap the rear lol.

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Cyclocross Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Issue with carbon layup - Carbonda CFR505
« on: May 28, 2023, 11:16:37 AM »
Quote from: toekiman on April 05, 2023, 11:16:02 AM
I just received my second Carbonda frame, it's a CFR505 size L and it looks awesome from the outide.
The only issue i have is that there seem to be some carbon "fibers" hanging loose on the inside of the bottom bracket/headset area.

Now my question is: has anyone seen this before on brand new chinese carbon frames ? Should i be worried about further delamination ? shouldn't Carbonda's QC have noticed this during inspection ?


I've already contacted the people at Carbonda about this but haven't heard back yet, this is my second frame, i already own a cfr696 which didn't have these "defects" on the inside. Hence my concern (although 696 uses BSA bb so it's probably easier to hide these things)









Got any more photos of that paint scheme? Love it. How did you communicate it to the team?

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