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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Velobuild VB-R-177
« on: October 29, 2022, 03:19:17 PM »
Quote from: patliean1 on October 29, 2022, 02:16:04 PM
I chuckled at this statement, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt because you're new here.

Sorry, English isn't my first language. That was not criticism, I really thought you do love Specialized!

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Velobuild VB-R-177
« on: October 29, 2022, 01:52:18 PM »
Quote from: patliean1 on October 27, 2022, 03:27:40 PM
I decided to retire my VB-168 frameset and rebuild my VB-177.  My current fleet is already filled with aero bikes that I ultimately prefer, and I just found myself not really liking the 168 even for what it is.

Now having ridden the 168 and 177 back to back, I think the 177 might be the better value.

That's interesting. The descriptions on VB say both are "2021" frames, but only the 177 talks about carbon (T1000) and build tech (EPS & latex moulding). The 168 just says nothing. That would support the theory that the layup / build quality on the 177 is better.

I was assuming the 168 would be stiffer because of its shape, but you're saying the 177 is in fact stiffer and just rides better?

You're clearly a specialized fanboy, how did the 168 disappoint? I realize your Allez Sprint is not the geometry of an SL7, but it's fairly close. You're saying you could tell them apart?

Did you measure the weight difference between the 2 frames?

Can you fit 32mm on the 177?

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
« on: October 27, 2022, 02:50:07 AM »
Quote from: cancancan on October 26, 2022, 06:00:30 PM
Just received a size 52 frame in matte black with the separate bar and stem.  https://imgur.com/a/F90D6Bd

Shipped 8 days after the order was placed and shipping took 7 days to Pennsylvania.  Overall, I'm impressed for the price.  Frame with derailleur hanger is 1020 grams - about 100g more than what I would expect a genuine Tarmac frame and 200g more than the S-Works.  Not bad.  The rest of the components come in at very respectable weights.  The bar and stem are quite a bit lighter than the Tarmac system and I could save 100g with a lightweight seatpost from Aliexpress. 

The frame and fork are clean from what I can see other than some imperfections in the paint work that I wouldn't expect to get through QC for a name brand frame. BB looks good and it remains to be seen whether the brake mounts will need faced.

That's great, pictures v promising!
Will be curious to hear about how you feel about ride quality, road feel, vs branded frames you've tried. Diabetic cycling and GC performance have both recently posted videos saying that the VB Pinarello clone rides "heavy" and wouldn't want them as main bikes, despite being light, stiff where you want it stiff, compliant where you want it compliant, tracking well, aero and so on.

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Component Deals & Selection / Re: Juin Tech GT-F brake calipers (dual piston)
« on: October 26, 2022, 04:45:53 PM »
Will Juin tech brakes work the same using SRAM / Shimano road shifters? I know that different cable pull ratios mean you shouldn't mix shimano and sram shifter-brake, but Juin Tech doesn't make a Sram version and a Shimano version AFAIK?
If you have a choice between Shimano and Sram with a plan to use Juin Tech brakes, what should you do?

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: wheelset choices - 50-60mm deep, 1400-1500g, bitex/novatec, sub $650
« on: September 07, 2022, 09:45:26 AM »
I m late to the party, but i've bought 2 wheelsets from Farsports, and i liaise by email directly. You tell them what you want, they quote you. For 650usd, you can get Sapim CX ray spokes, nice tubeless ready rims and light Novatec hubs from them. I wouldn't look at their website too much, they're trying to sell more expensive stuff that virtually nobody needs (ceramic non sense, untested carbon spokes, DT swiss hubs and so on).

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Trusted road carbon bar
« on: September 07, 2022, 09:10:14 AM »
If anyone is interested, I bought this in 38. https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3256802845939423.html? Havent installed them yet, but they're stiff AF, i can't bend them at all (off the bike). It's not integrated, but i wanted something i would trust my life with, so I figured a simpler design was likely to be safer. Paid USD41 (in 2021)
Years ago I bought https://www.aliexpress.com/item/2251801552845472.html? in 42. I've put thousands on km on it, mostly going up and down mountain passes, have had no issue at all. I chose that because that model seemed to be ubiquitous w lots of sales / feedback. Again, I avoided going for something exotic and untested. Paid GBP22 (in 2017)

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: ICAN triaero A9
« on: September 07, 2022, 08:12:52 AM »
Quote from: noseparade on August 06, 2022, 11:22:45 AM
As an update after I showed them the headtube and asked for a refund, they agreed and asked for the frame to be shipped back. There was no pushback. Refund has not been issued yet as they haven't gotten the frame, but they did pay for a shipping label for me to send the frame back to Shenzhen.

I also found a new Trek Domane SLR frameset that was being sold for cheap so I decided to use that for the time being. In the spirit of this forum I'll go for Chinese carbon wheels

Hi, did you get your money back? What ultimately happened? I think it's a good case study of the serious, or lack thereof, of ICAN.

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