disc brake, carbon spokes

yes sorry i mean ceramic freewheel hub

what is the size of the headtube diameter.

I am wondering if this toseek bar will works, as diameter is 28,4mm

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005003534876264.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.77da6b195vwhsO&algo_pvid=ebc9eec7-5566-4e7b-88b9-63bb04cef3d3&aem_p4p_detail=202208240524303228172498531200003003272&algo_exp_id=ebc9eec7-5566-4e7b-88b9-63bb04cef3d3-0&pdp_ext_f=%7B%22sku_id%22%3A%2212000029659980045%22%7D&pdp_npi=2%40dis%21EUR%21202.75%21127.73%21%21%21%21%21%400b0a187b16613438703092766e9cb8%2112000029659980045%21sea&curPageLogUid=KqiQpYqdCimY&ad_pvid=202208240524303228172498531200003003272_1&gatewayAdapt=glo2fra

here we were already talking about the TT X 33

http://chinertown.com/index.php/topic,3635.msg36214.html#msg36214

reach and stack are the same as SL7, the chainring is 5mm longer on the TTx33

So overall SL7=trifox 18 = XX-33 = Vb r 168


https://geometrygeeks.bike/compare/specialized-tarmac-sl7-2021-56,tantan-tt-x33-2022-56,pinarello-fp3-2009-560,velobuild-vb-r-168-2021-56,trifox-x18-2021-560/

As already mentioned i don't like the handlebar and ordered a new shorter straight one

new on has arrived, like the packaging
hope i have time on the weekend for mounting and testing

keep you posted

which one did you ordered?

I am currently interested in the TT-X33 model, communication with TanTan Cycling support is good and fast. Questions are answered in detail.

Maybe you can still cancel the order?

Did you purchqse the x33?

Thank you for responding.  I think if you ask people here, QC is probably the most important aspect Vb needs to focus on.

Anecdotally, most of the issues seem to be around:
1) missing or incorrect hardware
2) poor machining of hardware or mounting points on the frame
3) incorrect or sloppy paint job
4) “bait and switch” specifically around handlebars
5) poor after sales service

The frames themselves are fine.

The customer expectation is that they will receive exactly what they have ordered, and not have to contact for after service support.
Because, let’s be honest, after sales support is weak and aside from receiving a broken frame in the mail, the VB warranty is almost useless.

It is also in VBs interest to take the extra time to ensure an order is correct and free of defects.
Consider how much time and money is wasted dealing with after sale complaints, as well as the loss of reputation when these complaints are shared on forums?

Ideally, VB wants to be in a position where you will never hear from a customer again, unless it is to buy another frame.

I am not saying this to complain.  Rather, I say this because I would like to see VB succeed. And these QC issues are seriously harming your business

You sum up the perfect answer, and improvement points to be checked, for sure it will harm the business, why gamble when you can pay a little extra somewhere else and be sure of the quality.

I also hope VB will take all your point in consideration, and hope to see them succeed in the future.

Hello all

We are sorry for the troubles some of you have been experiencing with your Velobuild frames. We want to let you know that we are working on resolving these cases. If you still need help please get in touch at info@velobuild.com and we will do our best to resolve the problem.

The feedback shared in the thread is being reviewed and taken into account to improve our QC processes. We appreciate your understanding as we strive to offer the best quality products while keeping costs down.

Spending 1h for a proper QC will allow you not to spend hours to try to solve problem with angry customer. Maybe something to consider.