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Yeah I know, I agree mate. Just saying it's the unfortunate reality and it's a bit shit.

Unfortunately you gotta go into the purchase with the crappy expectation that your frame will be delayed if it's part of a production run, and delayed even more if it needs paint.

Problem multiplies when the customer gets antsie and the manufacturer starts to cut corners to get the product out the door. 

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That comes with buying a frame direct from manufacturer. If you get your frame on time, they either have it in stock or you got lucky. If it is delayed when it's being manufactured, that's normal.
Difference is that when somebody gives you an estimated delivery date because they just want to sell you a frame, it's not cool.

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I also ordered a frame in 56cm and a carbon spoked, ceramic bearing, ratchet freehub wheelset (C67DB) from them. Wheelset including shipping and Paypal fees was around 700 USD, which is quite cheap for what they offer. I will report when I received the parts. Looks like the rims are also provided to a company called „Laminar“:

https://www.lightcarbon.com/butterfly-weave-road-disc-carbon-clincher-rims-28mm-width_p237.html

https://laminarproducts.com/products/laminar-40mm-team-edition
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What makes you say that there provided to a company called laminar? I thought that the rims were made by Pro-X

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Hello everyone,

a short update on my experiences with the LCR017-D in combination with the Elite Edge 45 mm.

I have just returned from my 1-week training camp in Mallorca and after almost 1,000 km and thousands of meters of altitude, I am more than happy to have built this bike.
It just feels right and is a true all-rounder.
At the front in the wind in the group on the flat - up the mountains - down the mountains. There is nothing to complain about.

Here are a few pictures from Mallorca.

Looking good...any issues in the 1,000km shakedown ride? 

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Unless the bike is dedicated aero bike, square-ish down tube is fine. Cannondale SuperSix Evo 4 has square downtube as well, yet with Cannondale's own 50mm wheels and 2 piece handlebar it is on par or better with quite a few dedicated aero bikes.

The downtube on the supersix evo4 is nowhere near as wide or square as the one on the LC-17.  The front facing leading edge of the cannondale supersix evo 4 is rounded and narrower than the backside of the downtube which is squared off which is the opposite of the LC17.  It baffles the mind why the lc17 was designed that way.


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When i see all the flat sections on the 017-d i doubt this frame is having good aero performance.
Down tube, seat tube and seat post are totally flat right in the airflow...


About the reach/stack you must take account that frames need special spacer to ensure cable routing, thus you can add at least 1,5cm to 2 cm for real stack and 1cm less for reach.

About workswell, they are not selling a lot for single customers.

Yeah the down tube is as aerodynamic as a bus. The could have easily rounded that leading edge without sacrificing strength while probably reducing weight.


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I've been having an issue with getting both the front and rear calipers to align.  Seems that they weren't faced properly. . 

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Here are a few pictures.

I weighed the frame and fork on the kitchen scales ;-)

Frame: 911 g
Fork (uncut): 436 g

I think these are outstanding values. Especially as the whole thing has been painted.


Also attached are the desired detailed pictures.

https://chinertown.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4309.0;attach=18794;image

How did you calipers align?  Seems that the facing of the mounting areas on the rear chain stay and front fork is nil.

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oh sorry, I think I misread that.
There were no "grommets" for the brake hoses - but I don't think they're necessary.

There were grommets (I thought that's what you meant when you skimmed the post) for the cables and DI2 cables to the front derailleur/rear derailleur.

I can take photos of them when I get the chance.

Thanks for the clarification.  Won't the hoses rub through the paint eventually?⁶

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Were grommets included for where the brake hoses exit the frame at the front fork and rear chain stay?
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Can you post a close up pic of that area?

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I've just finished the bike and don't want to withhold the first pictures from you.  :D

If you like, I'll be happy to create a separate thread for the build, with decent pictures and what the riding impression is like.

As it's a pretty wet winter here at the moment and I'm working until dark, I won't be able to start the first test drive until next weekend at the earliest  :'(

Were grommets included for where the brake hoses exit the frame at the front fork and rear chain stay?

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Elite Edge 45 mm
1330 g

Thanks, The wheels I'm planning on using for this frame are about the same weight, so hopefully I'll be around the same ballpark total as your build is

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I've just finished the bike and don't want to withhold the first pictures from you.  :D

If you like, I'll be happy to create a separate thread for the build, with decent pictures and what the riding impression is like.

As it's a pretty wet winter here at the moment and I'm working until dark, I won't be able to start the first test drive until next weekend at the earliest  :'(


Wow...Nice!  You must be dying to take it for a spin!  What the weight for the bare wheels youre using? 

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I think the easiest solution is to just file down the pass through washer so the gap is minimized.

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