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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Velobuild VB-R-177
« on: August 20, 2023, 01:35:47 PM »
Quote from: patliean1 on August 20, 2023, 06:43:26 AM
Howdy!

I measured and cut the steer tube with the intentions of using a spacer about the separate stem. It does help spread the force evenly, but it was mainly to give myself the option of raising the stem just in case I needed to in the future. This came in handy when I switched to using the FSA no.69 setup, as the headset cap on that is much taller than what's provided from VB.

Thanks! Just to be clear: Did the Velobuild stem include a topcap with a hole that allows the steerer not to be cut to size? Like the SL7 stem, where a different topcap with a 1 1/8 inch hole allows to run spacers above the stem.

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Velobuild VB-R-177
« on: August 20, 2023, 02:11:49 AM »
Quote from: patliean1 on December 30, 2021, 03:08:31 PM
Hey Everyone,

My intentions are not to spam this thread with my photos. However, I finally received my VeloBuild 38mm wheels after a two week delay courtesy of my local postal service  :( . The Hyper 65s I originally had on the 177 are for my Winspace T1500 which I will be building up this weekend.

1. They are pretty heavy. 1778g for the pair. For comparison sake, my Winspace Hyper 65s weigh 1610g. Lighter yet significantly deeper wheels, but also significantly more expensive. You could buy three pairs of VB wheels for the price of Hypers. Just something to consider...

2. Specs are tubeless clinchers with the tubeless tape already installed. 25mm external, 19mm internal. The wheels come with valve extenders, but sadly no extra spokes or tubeless valves. Standard Novatec hubs. I've used these hubs on my Yoeleo wheels and they are perfectly fine.

3. This is the final "form" for the build. Without power meter pedals, carbon bottle cage, or Garmin mount...final weight is 8kg

I'm working on my official video review of the build, but for the price and weight I have to say it's a lovely deal. The light weight carbon of the 177 offsets the heavy wheels in my opinion, so basically you're getting a big-brand quality frameset, handlebars, and wheels for under $1000. Add your favorite groupset and you're looking at a setup that would probably cost almost double in price from one the main brands out there.

PS - the gold chain is from OG-Evkin. I probably own about 8-10 different components from them. They offer solid value for the price.

Hey Patty, quick question: How did you manage to add spacers above the VB seperate stem?
Did they include a suitable topcap to run spacers?


I'm a Velobuild frameset with that stem soon and i want to validate my stack height before cutting the steerer to size.

Thanks!!

EDIT: Or did you just put that one Spacer on top of the topcap to evenly spread the compressing force? Meaning that your steerer was already cut to size?
I might have to 3d-print an adapter to run standard spacers above the stem then... probably not a big deal.

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Hygge Aero Carbon Frame
« on: August 18, 2023, 02:02:46 AM »
Quote from: TidyDinosaur on August 18, 2023, 01:31:42 AM
Yeah, having been a part-time photographer in a past life, I am kind of sensitive to this kind of practises... I contacted them on IG. We'll see if we can work something out...

I could use a new HT MTB frame since OG-Evkin stabbed me in the back. But the Hygge MTB frame seems to have a very slack head tube angle...

Really interested in how they will respond... Keep us posted! :D

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Yishun R086-D Aero Road
« on: August 16, 2023, 01:40:20 AM »
Quote from: patliean1 on August 15, 2023, 10:11:18 PM
More pics and my initial thoughts coming soon. For now all I can say is...wow.

Rest in peace all my other cheap Chinese frames.

Actually looks a lot better than expected! I did not like the frame shapes, but on a complete build it blends in nicely.
Will you paint the frame later on?

It even features a slight speed-sniffer! Thats some proper SL8 aerodynamics  ;)

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
« on: August 11, 2023, 09:25:34 AM »
Quote from: OlieSimpson on August 11, 2023, 09:09:15 AM
Hey Joe!

My frame came with a soft rubber grommet for the rear derailleur exit, a hard plastic (removable) housing for the rear brake, and a metal housing for the front derailleur. Nothing was needed for the front brake exit on the fork with how the cable exists the fork leg.

It didn't come with anything for Di2 cables so I'd also be interested to hear what people have done here.

For the SL7 grommets, the seat posts on the Sl7 and 168 are different shapes so I'm not sure if this would work, although I've got no direct experience with this so someone else may advise otherwise  :)

Good luck with the build, they're great bikes for the money!

Thanks for the input, Olie!

Yeah I know that the SL7 Seatpost is slightly different shaped, but only slightly. So maybe the grommets are elastic enough to make it work. I might try it out, if there are no other safe ways of mounting the battery.


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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
« on: August 11, 2023, 08:46:27 AM »
Hey guys,

I ordered my frameset and its in the process of painting, in candy blue.
But I still have some questions while planning my build.

Did your frameset come with grommets for the exit ports of the brake hose? Meaning the holes in the chainstay and fork to prevent rubbung of the brake hose on the carbon.
Or did you buy Specialized grommets? Or use none at all?

Secondly: Does the frame come with di2 cable grommets? Or which ones did you source yourself?

How did the Di2-Users mount the battery? I read about just stuffing it in with bubblewrap, but is that safe?
Has anyone tried the SL7 Battery mounting grommets (S199900003)


Thanks for your input! Really looking forward to build up mine soon!

Greetings from Germany

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
« on: July 30, 2023, 12:26:34 PM »
Quote from: Eddy_Twerckx on July 29, 2023, 09:52:53 AM
It's heavier by around 500-600g, but other than that I don't think I could tell the difference. It's been my race bike all season and I love it. The Tarmac is my normal everyday riding bike mainly for the setup/position. I just upgraded it to 12sp Di2 which is why the 11sp went on the 168. Basically, I went weight weenie and comfort for the SL7, while this bike is my "cheap" race bike. I wouldn't describe it as sluggish at all. For reference my FTP is around 330W with a sprint around 1,600W. It doesn't hold me back.

Thanks for the insights! Also great to hear you have some racing background to back up your opinion.
How would you rate the aero-ness of the 168 compared to the SL7?
I offen hear that Specialized nailed the aerodynamics in the SL7.
As the 168 is identical in geometry and very very similar in appearance (although not the same, as the genuine seatpost does not fit), I hope to get the same aerodynamics.
But its very hard to judge the tube shapes from pictures. Especially the tube widths (e.g. downtube width from the front perspective).

Could you notice any difference in tube shapes and the aero profiles?

Thanks a lot, Eddy!  ;)

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
« on: July 28, 2023, 12:36:49 AM »
Quote from: Eddy_Twerckx on July 26, 2023, 07:19:05 PM
New groupset (Ultegra 11sp Di2). Went back to the LightBicycle AR45s with Challenge Criterium RS tires. Still need to bleed the brakes and weight it.

Looks good! Really interested in your torough opinion on how the VB fares against your SL7. I am a bit hestinant as i want to build up a budget bike with a new 12spd Di2, but i sometimes hear that the 168 feels "sluggish"(?) conpared to an genuine Specialized.
You think it would be wasting to slap a new Ultegra Di2 onto such a "cheap" frame?

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Unreadable Topic: "VeloBuild Headset Play Issue"
« on: June 01, 2023, 03:59:21 AM »
Quote from: coffeebreak on May 31, 2023, 11:54:16 AM
Though, observing the design I am now curious how does it solve the play issue exactly - is the main cut-out smaller than before? Also can someone explain how does that small slit on the outer curvature help grip steerer better - not being snarky, I am just curious.

My guess is:

The slit in the back makes the C-Ring more flexible. The previous version was too stiff, which results to needing very high headset preload forces in order to deform the C-Ring and remove the headset play. The newer version is more flexible and then requires less force to deform.

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Scott Foil replica
« on: May 11, 2023, 01:52:46 AM »
Quote from: abdbeg on May 10, 2023, 11:48:45 PM
I coudn't find the source of these photos, and i know this background and fake grass, they use it for other frames as well, so it's a real

Maybe they bought/borrowed the real bike to take some nice photos and then sell their fake framesets? Who knows...

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Velobuild VB-R-218
« on: March 23, 2023, 02:13:10 AM »
Quote from: coffeebreak on March 22, 2023, 12:42:43 PM
so many VB frames here but not a single review of VB wheels.

in fact, Patrick Lino had these wheels (the 38mm version) on his Velobuild 177, but he wasn't overly impressed by their ride feel and the heavy weight.

Check it out here:
and here: https://youtu.be/JIsF_ropxME?t=396

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Velobuild VB-R-218
« on: March 12, 2023, 10:45:27 AM »
Quote from: mattgolt on March 12, 2023, 09:41:30 AM

Total delivery time was longer than expected though. Ordered 29th of Jan. Shipment on 25th of Feb. Delivery in Germany on 10th of March.

Nice one, paintjob looks very good, especially for that price!

Which shipping method did you chose to Germany? Did you have to pay any additional duties or fees?

Thanks and greetings from Germany!  ;)

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