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After The Ride / Re: MTB Home trainer Software
« on: November 28, 2016, 03:47:58 AM »
I think I'm getting closer to what I need to complete an effective winter prep.

The home trainer is definitely a key part of the equation. Zwift is the motivation side of the HT. Then, you need a plan, because w/o a plan you are ineffective. So I started a plan on Zwift. As long as the weather was poor it was OK, I would spend enough time on the trainer to get the plan done. Now, the week is going to be cold but very dry and sunny! No way I ride all time indoor.

But my plan!!

It's a pain, cause my plan is really just within Zwift. So, After 2 weeks warming up with Zwift's FTP plan I'm going to switch gears. I've just subscribed to CTS "60-minutes climb" plan. This is really my road goal, I plan on 60 minutes climbs (Chamrousse, Alpe d'Huez...). So, I plan to follow this program either indoor or outdoor. You basically receive instruction for the next day by email, every day. I've downloaded an interval timer on my iPhone (https://itunes.apple.com/fr/app/interval-timer-timing-for/id406473568?l=en&mt=8`), the free version.

I still plan to insert some normal rides if I have the opportunity, but I'll try to follow this plan.

FYI, CTS program comes free of charge to Strava Premium members. They offer a wide range of plans. For each plan you decide how long you will spend on the bike each week. I'll report on this plan, but I plan to get started after new year. I'll spend the last 4 weeks of 2016 exploring Zwift further (group rides, why not races), experimenting HIIT session on the road, why not on the MTB, and just riding!
I can provide some feedback on the Zwift FTP building plan. I could be wrong but I find the sessions a bit too relaxed to me. I wish I would push harder. I'm afraid I don't get all the benefit I could from the session because the intensity is a bit low.

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After The Ride / Re: MTB Home trainer Software
« on: November 25, 2016, 09:14:51 AM »
a second reason will probably come soon...
Now you told too much or too little! Are we talking about a baby?!

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After The Ride / Re: MTB Home trainer Software
« on: November 25, 2016, 03:14:28 AM »
Wow, it's oh so quiet (Bjork inside)! I guess it is because of Thanksgiving.

I get some content to share here, Home trainer related. Yesterday, I did an indoor ride (rain outside, was not feeling great, coughing, cold...). I still did a workout of my FTP builder plan, 1:23 minutes on the trainer, not bad. All that to say that after workout, I told myself:

"This feels very similar to an outdoor ride I've done recently. I feel just about the same after the ride!"


So I've crunched the numbers, for your delight  ;D

                                     Indoor                                Outdoor
DateNov. 24thNov. 17th
Distance41.2 km41.1 km
Time1:23:041:25:33
Elevation425 m546 m
Avg Power188 w192 w
Avg HR142 bpm148 bpm
Avg Speed29.8 km/h28.9 km/h

I'm shocked by this incredible matching. The 2 rides are very similar except that the Outdoor ride showed a bit more elevation, that is reflected in every other parameter (time, power, HR, speed). And again, my body told me that these 2 efforts were similar.
So, this really shows that trainers provide reliable data (in term of power, distance, elevation, speed). It also shows that when it's not possible to ride outside you can really get the same workout indoor. And honestly, I feel bad to admit it, it can be almost as fun as riding outdoor...  :-[  I've enjoyed riding in London (I really do) or on this Watopia Island, I enjoyed riding in a group (I plan to repeat that), I'm connected to many riders from all around the world now (Asia, EU, USA) and we exchange during and after the ride. I will miss that social aspect after the winter, I will try to find groups to ride with.
Also, structured training is a lot easier on the trainer where the big screen in front of you tells you what to do. I haven't found a good way to do HIIT (high intensity interval training) training outdoor. Ideally I'd like to take some of my Zwift FTP-building plan to outdoor rides, but I haven't found a tool to tell me the sequence of the workout while on the bike (apart from a sticky note and a timer). Any advice is appreciated.

Enjoy the Holiday!

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Vendor Discussion & Reviews / Wheel Fab video
« on: November 21, 2016, 05:30:49 AM »
This is a tour of the Zipp Factory by GCN. I'd love to see the same video from a Chinese vendor! Pretty amazing to see how a carbon wheel is built.


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After The Ride / Re: MTB Home trainer Software
« on: November 19, 2016, 11:30:47 AM »
You got it 100% correct  8)

But again, the key point with Zwift is that it makes indoor ride 10x more enjoyable. Time flies, really. And the 3D environment, with everything around (avatar of real people, change in weather, sounds, etc...) succeeds to cheat my brain enough that I react like in a real environment (slightly leaning when cornering, pushing a bit more when reaching the top of a climb, getting in the drops after the pass of the mountain...).

Getting back to the power reading, it's most likely inaccurate but I don't race in Zwift, so I don't care! But the relative power reading is extremely useful to someone who never had a power meter. It's really educating and shows the benefit of the real life power meter.

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After The Ride / Re: MTB Home trainer Software
« on: November 19, 2016, 05:04:24 AM »
That's funny  ;D
Communication is difficult, and written communication is so difficult! So easy to misunderstand, sometimes I don't even understand what I meant to say when I read what I wrote :)

So, no my FTP is not 600W. What I meant to say is that, staying on the small chainring, I managed to push anywhere between 60W and 600W during an FTP test. 60 W being the warmup. 600W being the final sprint. My FTP, measured on Zwift is around 265W. It is probably lower then the real value. I could have pushed more. And my Strava numbers (not real measurements, but based on climb profile/speed/weight) tell me that I'm closer to 300W (but not there yet).
I'm not a pro but I'm not a newbie either. I've participated in the French National XC Marathon championship this year. Not the best for sure  ;D

Anyway, as I mentioned, my setup is still very nice on Zwift. I get 3 sensors telling Zwift what I do (speed/cadence/HR). Then Zwift displays the power and my target power. And whatever the climb, 200W is 200W, only the speed changes. I change the resistance myself with my gear. The output power is just a combination of what I'm pushing (cadence) and the gear ratio. What you need to understand on that Fluid trainer is that the resistance increases with the speed of the rear wheel.
It's not as good as smart trainer but it's only 200€! And so far the experience is excellent to me. In the short time I've had this tool I've already sweated over 8 hours on it! It's all that matters.

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After The Ride / Re: MTB Home trainer Software
« on: November 18, 2016, 09:54:36 AM »
Reviewing the article it looks like this PowerPod is not a good choice for MTB:

"Finally, one area that doesn’t work well is cobbles.  I recognize this is largely a European problem, and not so much a North American one – but, it’s a valid problem for me since my streets are littered with them.  In my testing, the unit simply doesn’t produce accurate power when riding cobblestones.  Within seconds of hitting such a patch of roadway, the unit pretty much shrugs and gives up.  It’s like this emoticon: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯"

No obvious choice for now...

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Component Deals & Selection / Re: Feedback on Titanium chains.
« on: November 18, 2016, 03:02:50 AM »
Hi tripleDot,

Thanks for educating me :)
I was curious and searched for Philippines and Asia. It looks like the answer is pretty complex!
http://thediplomat.com/2010/12/are-filipinos-asian/

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After The Ride / Re: MTB Home trainer Software
« on: November 17, 2016, 10:09:40 AM »
A quick update on home trainer. I get a couple key points I'd like to share with you:

1) It's pretty impressive how it helps to progress.
I've cycled a lot more then I would have w/o a trainer. It shows when I'm back on the road. Today I went for a relaxing ride over lunch, nice sunny cold day, and still pushed on the way back up home, but not as much as I have in the past. I was surprised to cross a reference point at 28km/h, around the top of the climb, where I know I'm usually around 24-26km/h. Checking the log on Strava, I have indeed beaten my PR, not trying to!

2) There is a lot to learn from Power metric.
Real power meters are more expensive then what I want to spend, so I don't have any. But trainers enable to visualize Power easily. I've experimented that many factors impact output Power:
- the pedaling technique can save a lot of watts. You have to force yourself to push less when pedaling properly or you exceed the power target.
- my position on the bike is important. I generate more watts in the drops, w/o meaning to.
- cadence. There is really a sweet spot that is efficient. That's about 85 rpm for me (it could actually be a different real value, but that's what my sensor tells me)
- Mind focus. During a recovery section I have to focus on the watts or I push too much. When I see a change in the landscape (turn, approach a climb or a descent or a group...Zwift enables all that) I immediately start to push stronger. I have to force myself if I want to stay at the power target.
This tells me that a power meter would be cool on the road, but I'll wait till a product comes in at a reasonable price!

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My pleasure  ;D
Now you know you are 65.5 USD away to get the top of the range of road pedals  :-\

I guess that as long as you don't want to change the position of the cleats you can still easily swap road/MTB. After testing the cleats pushed to the rear on MTB (advice from friends and a video from Fabien Barrel) I have adopted it and feel a lot better in the DH. But that's not comfortable to pedal on road bike. What I do for now is use the road setup both for MTB and road. And honestly, so far, with this setup my MTB shoes/pedals are just fine on road. Just a bit too much float, which can be annoying when pushing hard.

I'll let you know my feeling on road pedals/shoes. On top of what you mention, I've seen that the road setup enables to get the foot closer to the axle of the pedal, but I struggle to understand why this is an advantage...  :o

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Hey Sitar_Ned, just check this out! GCN shows Road vs. Gravel

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Component Deals & Selection / Re: Feedback on Titanium chains.
« on: November 17, 2016, 03:30:58 AM »
I'd say that if you don't maintain your chain, Ti or not, it won't last long. Rust won't attack it but it will still wear out quickly. I'm a bit of a maniac but I wipe my chain after every ride with a rag (same with RD pulleys, chainrings), then add a minimal amount of Teflon based lubricant.
That said, 3-4x the price of a regular chain is a very good price!

I really need to visit Asia...

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I had a lot of thoughts into the road bike shoes/pedals. Swapping pedals between road bike/MTB was not the main problem. The main problem was the cleats position on the shoes. I don't want them the same: under the toe ball for road and pushed to the rear for MTB. You can't change that everytime, it's a real pain, you risk that it's not positioned properly.

So, what I really needed was 2 pair of shoes, and it didn't make any sense to me to buy a MTB pair for a road-only usage. If road pedals exist, there must be a reason why they are more suited then MTB pedals. Anyway, I'll discover the reason by Christmas. I'll stick those pedals under the tree :)

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And again 4.5$ cheaper. Yes, 65.5 USD for a pair of Titanium/Carbon road pedals that cost about 220€ in France. That was so low that I've just ordered them!
https://fr.aliexpress.com/item/discount-sale-costelo-Xpresso-12-Titan-Carbon-Pedals-Road-Bike-Pedals-Road-Bicycle-Parts-Pedal-lock/32666399964.html?detailNewVersion=&categoryId=122204

Sorry Carbonazza I will finally not take your pedals, but I think that you'll probably just keep them! If I was you I would return the Mavic/Time pedals even if the Chinese ones don't arrive on time.

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Component Deals & Selection / Re: Easton Haven 35 carbon bars for $64
« on: November 16, 2016, 07:25:56 AM »
Great price indeed!

But "Narrow", 750 mm?!  :o

Also, I'd be worried to get a bar too rigid being 35 mm format. I like my bars to flex a bit, it is both more comfortable and ultimately more robust (rigid = fragile).

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