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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
« on: August 11, 2023, 09:25:34 AM »
Hey Joe!

My frame came with a soft rubber grommet for the rear derailleur exit, a hard plastic (removable) housing for the rear brake, and a metal housing for the front derailleur. Nothing was needed for the front brake exit on the fork with how the cable exists the fork leg.

It didn't come with anything for Di2 cables so I'd also be interested to hear what people have done here.

For the SL7 grommets, the seat posts on the Sl7 and 168 are different shapes so I'm not sure if this would work, although I've got no direct experience with this so someone else may advise otherwise  :)

Good luck with the build, they're great bikes for the money!

Thanks for the input, Olie!

Yeah I know that the SL7 Seatpost is slightly different shaped, but only slightly. So maybe the grommets are elastic enough to make it work. I might try it out, if there are no other safe ways of mounting the battery.


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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
« on: August 11, 2023, 08:46:27 AM »
Hey guys,

I ordered my frameset and its in the process of painting, in candy blue.
But I still have some questions while planning my build.

Did your frameset come with grommets for the exit ports of the brake hose? Meaning the holes in the chainstay and fork to prevent rubbung of the brake hose on the carbon.
Or did you buy Specialized grommets? Or use none at all?

Secondly: Does the frame come with di2 cable grommets? Or which ones did you source yourself?

How did the Di2-Users mount the battery? I read about just stuffing it in with bubblewrap, but is that safe?
Has anyone tried the SL7 Battery mounting grommets (S199900003)


Thanks for your input! Really looking forward to build up mine soon!

Greetings from Germany

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It's heavier by around 500-600g, but other than that I don't think I could tell the difference. It's been my race bike all season and I love it. The Tarmac is my normal everyday riding bike mainly for the setup/position. I just upgraded it to 12sp Di2 which is why the 11sp went on the 168. Basically, I went weight weenie and comfort for the SL7, while this bike is my "cheap" race bike. I wouldn't describe it as sluggish at all. For reference my FTP is around 330W with a sprint around 1,600W. It doesn't hold me back.

Thanks for the insights! Also great to hear you have some racing background to back up your opinion.
How would you rate the aero-ness of the 168 compared to the SL7?
I offen hear that Specialized nailed the aerodynamics in the SL7.
As the 168 is identical in geometry and very very similar in appearance (although not the same, as the genuine seatpost does not fit), I hope to get the same aerodynamics.
But its very hard to judge the tube shapes from pictures. Especially the tube widths (e.g. downtube width from the front perspective).

Could you notice any difference in tube shapes and the aero profiles?

Thanks a lot, Eddy!  ;)

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New groupset (Ultegra 11sp Di2). Went back to the LightBicycle AR45s with Challenge Criterium RS tires. Still need to bleed the brakes and weight it.

Looks good! Really interested in your torough opinion on how the VB fares against your SL7. I am a bit hestinant as i want to build up a budget bike with a new 12spd Di2, but i sometimes hear that the 168 feels "sluggish"(?) conpared to an genuine Specialized.
You think it would be wasting to slap a new Ultegra Di2 onto such a "cheap" frame?

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Though, observing the design I am now curious how does it solve the play issue exactly - is the main cut-out smaller than before? Also can someone explain how does that small slit on the outer curvature help grip steerer better - not being snarky, I am just curious.

My guess is:

The slit in the back makes the C-Ring more flexible. The previous version was too stiff, which results to needing very high headset preload forces in order to deform the C-Ring and remove the headset play. The newer version is more flexible and then requires less force to deform.

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Scott Foil replica
« on: May 11, 2023, 01:52:46 AM »
I coudn't find the source of these photos, and i know this background and fake grass, they use it for other frames as well, so it's a real

Maybe they bought/borrowed the real bike to take some nice photos and then sell their fake framesets? Who knows...

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Velobuild VB-R-218
« on: March 23, 2023, 02:13:10 AM »
so many VB frames here but not a single review of VB wheels.

in fact, Patrick Lino had these wheels (the 38mm version) on his Velobuild 177, but he wasn't overly impressed by their ride feel and the heavy weight.

Check it out here:
and here: https://youtu.be/JIsF_ropxME?t=396

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Velobuild VB-R-218
« on: March 12, 2023, 10:45:27 AM »

Total delivery time was longer than expected though. Ordered 29th of Jan. Shipment on 25th of Feb. Delivery in Germany on 10th of March.

Nice one, paintjob looks very good, especially for that price!

Which shipping method did you chose to Germany? Did you have to pay any additional duties or fees?

Thanks and greetings from Germany!  ;)

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