So  I bit the bullet and bought a new shimano cassette and chain and within an hour I had it pretty much 95% dialled in.Hopefully just some on the road adjustments to be made.
I was trying to use a campagnolo chorus and cassette with zero joy!

Inadvertently I found a glitch that was probably the initial source of my woes.
Either my phone or the app was disconnecting from the rd but any adjustments that were made in the app were saved BUT  not sent to the mech. So when I kept making adjustments and nothing happening  then the app reconnects and all the adjustments get sent and the rd is all over the place.
Now it could be my phone as well but anyone who is having an equally frustrating time...it may be worth checking.
I am on Android!

Knocked a link out and now the chain is too short PLUS it made no difference.
The rd is simply not 'storing' the positions.
EG Just  now.
Shortened the chain and pressed the 'One Click Recovery' so I am starting fresh!
Inital calibration done and sprocket 1 running clean.
Back out to gear selection and up to sprocket 2.
Get all the way to sprocket 12 and dialled in.
So from 1 to 12 is acceptable.
Go to move to sprocket 11 and it takes a
n adjustment of circa 40 'points' to get it to drop which then knocks out the movement to back to sprocket 12.
Go to move it down to sprocket 1 to start again and it now wont drop onto sprocket 1 from sprocket 2.

As I said it almost as if its not storing the positions.

I am not wasting anymore time on it.
The mech is coming off and they can either replace it or I will open a paypal dispute and order a sram Apex 1x.

When I try to dial in all the 12 speed sprockets....this is the best  can get it. Any alteration to the 'B' screw  or any trim to get the 10th to 11th sprocket to shift cleanly will throw out the 10th sprocket.
As can be seen this is the best I can get going from the smallest to the biggest. But coming from biggest to smallest is a disaster and any attempt to make an adjustment to get it to work results in the upshift to go out.

https://youtube.com/shorts/OJe0booG4Io?si=0jdyCijPX_kyM6xx



I have sent this on to Jane at Wheeltop to see what she says.

Yeah I have tried everything with all settings. The mech seems to have a life of it's own. Reading on the Facebook groups people having it set up with min fuss. I have spent ,I would guess, about 4 hrs at it and at no point have I got it to run smoothly.

Did your frame not come with the C ring as part of the headset?

If not then I suspect that Ican dont want to be selling the frame without the bars in which case they should state that!

Hey all,
1st post on here.
So I have joined the Ican Graro club.
1st bike that I have gotten that isnt a dedicated road bike.
I came across a problem that ended with a email conversation between myself and Perry.
I didnt want to use their integrated cockpit as I had a few stems and bars hanging around and am gonna use those and have plenty of spacers that I can use to make it work.
When the frame arrived and unpacked everything and did a dry assembly I noticed that the compression ring/washer that sits on top of the top bearing was  missing.
I emailed Perry and he told me it wont fit unless I was using their bar/stem!
I informed him  that it wasnt part of the bar/stem set up but an essential part of the headset and the frame would be unridedable without it!
He offered to send me a new headset and spacers BUT insited that Ican bore no responsiblity if I used the spacers with a non Ican cockpit.
Anyway I should have the new headset tomorrow and will do an assemlbly with my 3T  stem and bars and see how it works.

Ta