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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: SL 8 clone
« on: February 24, 2025, 07:42:17 AM »i make only one ride.and do you mean this flexibility positively or negatively?
rear tail and bottom bracket looks very flexi for me.
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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« on: February 20, 2025, 04:13:42 AM »I’ve been following this thread with great interest, and as an owner of a genuine S-Works SL8, I have to admit that the price of these counterfeit frames is tempting. However, at the end of the day, it's still a counterfeit. I recently watched the GCN video on YouTube about fake products, where they spoke with the person at Specialized who handles counterfeit goods. After that, it really made buying one a hard "no" for me.
I get that bike prices are now ridiculously high, and honestly, if I could ride a motorbike, I could get a Ducati for the same price! But if we keep buying into this, the prices will just keep climbing. We've already seen Chinese brands slowly following suit, and it won't be long before we're looking at £3k Chinese frames or even £1,500 open molds.
You can try to justify it, but these counterfeit manufacturers are driven by one thing only: money. They have little to no regard for warranties (which are often just a marketing tool), poor customer service, or rider safety. If you have an accident on one of these bikes and something fails, good luck getting any kind of support. At least with real brands, there’s some accountability.
Additionally, these manufacturers often support poor working conditions, and in some cases, possibly even underage labor. These companies can be unscrupulous.
If you're after quality, you're probably better off going with reputable Chinese brands or considering open molds.
How many no brand frames have you owned and used?
Which supplier did you buy from?
How did you choose the supplier?
What are the conditions of the workers in the factories that produce for specialized?
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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« on: February 13, 2025, 01:42:51 AM »Not from my experience. Usually they bring up to 2 frames per box. Price is not broken in half but more than covers all those feesin my experience, buying 2 frames, they use only one box (bigger), but the shipping price is adjusted to the volume of the bigger box and the greater weight ... there is still a saving in costs
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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Spcycle New Mold SP-R088 Carbon Road Frame
« on: February 12, 2025, 06:17:02 AM »
for discounts it is ALI, they are put periodically.
Regarding free shipping..be careful because in this mode it is very easy to run into customs and pay up to 48% more taxes, it is always advisable to agree with the seller or choose default XBD shipping with prepaid taxes, this to have a final purchase price without surprises
Regarding free shipping..be careful because in this mode it is very easy to run into customs and pay up to 48% more taxes, it is always advisable to agree with the seller or choose default XBD shipping with prepaid taxes, this to have a final purchase price without surprises
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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Spcycle New Mold SP-R088 Carbon Road Frame
« on: January 22, 2025, 11:02:45 PM »Sure, I'll take photos in the morning. Anything you want to see in particular?this shot thanks
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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Spcycle New Mold SP-R088 Carbon Road Frame
« on: January 22, 2025, 11:40:47 AM »Now that I look closely comparing my TFSA SL6 clone and my R088, even the older Tarmac clones have the slight tapered head tube. Then again there's always the TanTan X68 or other SL8 clones if that's the look you're going for. I mainly got this frame for the other features. UDH hangers are like $6 USD and UDH direct mount hangers are under $20 USD. Plus at some point I might try fitting 32c tires.
Sorry you didn't get exactly what you wanted. I made sure to verify the look beforehand with SPcycle with examples before moving forward with my UD glossy coating. The only reason I went with UD glossy is that it's easier to hide scratches and other blemishes, plus I'm not confident in SPcycle's paint work from a previous frame I purchased from them.
I really like this frame. I meant, if you really want to find something to improve it is the head tube.
would you be so kind if you could share photos of the front bike
thanks
good rides with your new bike
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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Spcycle New Mold SP-R088 Carbon Road Frame
« on: January 21, 2025, 08:51:42 AM »The following is the weight of the Matt black frame (without rear axle and UDH hanger installed)
Size 44, weight 760G
Size 49, weight 780G
Size 52, weight 800G
Size 54, weight 830G
Size 56, weight 860G
Size 58, weight 885G
the frame is nice and seems well made, but it would be nice with a more tapered head tube restyling.
a simple cylinder clashes with the frame line
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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Spcycle New Mold SP-R088 Carbon Road Frame
« on: January 18, 2025, 01:52:51 AM »
it's a clear finish, not a paint job. They usually let you choose between glossy or matte.
the glossy one lets you see all the grain of the carbon.
the matte one hides it a bit
the glossy one lets you see all the grain of the carbon.
the matte one hides it a bit
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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« on: January 16, 2025, 06:52:21 AM »
That OEM factories master carbon processing—I agree.
Starting from the idea of offering a good product for $700, what should I do?
Start with elements that are already working and tested by others, minimizing the testing phase as much as possible.
Use raw materials that are not the latest generation (types of carbon and resins). And here’s my question:
Let me use random numbers to explain myself:
For example, Specialized’s SL8 project requires that the frame is composed of 280 pre-cut pieces of a specific shape, placed in a specific position, with a specific thickness, and using a specific type of carbon and resin (and all of this has to be recalculated for each frame size).
If an OEM factory uses different materials to reduce costs, the scheme (the 280 pre-cut pieces) created by the parent company would have to be revised. And this brings us back to the need for expensive tests and prototypes to achieve a good result with inferior materials.
Conclusions:
My reasoning would be:
I am an OEM manufacturer. If I want to create a GOOD product with that design aesthetic but using different materials—and I want to do as little testing and trial-and-error as possible—what do I do?
Example:
The Specialized frame in size 52 weighs 800 grams. I add 80–100 grams more material to mine and achieve the desired result.
The Specialized fork weighs 350 grams. I make mine weigh 380 grams.
Instead, seeing that the Tan Tan fork weighs 30 grams less worries me. I can’t explain it.
Starting from the idea of offering a good product for $700, what should I do?
Start with elements that are already working and tested by others, minimizing the testing phase as much as possible.
Use raw materials that are not the latest generation (types of carbon and resins). And here’s my question:
Let me use random numbers to explain myself:
For example, Specialized’s SL8 project requires that the frame is composed of 280 pre-cut pieces of a specific shape, placed in a specific position, with a specific thickness, and using a specific type of carbon and resin (and all of this has to be recalculated for each frame size).
If an OEM factory uses different materials to reduce costs, the scheme (the 280 pre-cut pieces) created by the parent company would have to be revised. And this brings us back to the need for expensive tests and prototypes to achieve a good result with inferior materials.
Conclusions:
My reasoning would be:
I am an OEM manufacturer. If I want to create a GOOD product with that design aesthetic but using different materials—and I want to do as little testing and trial-and-error as possible—what do I do?
Example:
The Specialized frame in size 52 weighs 800 grams. I add 80–100 grams more material to mine and achieve the desired result.
The Specialized fork weighs 350 grams. I make mine weigh 380 grams.
Instead, seeing that the Tan Tan fork weighs 30 grams less worries me. I can’t explain it.
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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« on: January 15, 2025, 07:06:47 PM »
I am really interested in purchasing one of these frames.
I will choose the raw finish in size 52.
Considerations:
The raw TAN TAN frame weighs 140 grams more than the original Specialized frame of the same size, and I actually like this.
What I don’t like is the fork, where the TAN TAN component is even 30 grams lighter than the Specialized one.
I would like to ask TAN TAN to confirm the weight.
As for the rest, I am not surprised at all that there is a parallel production of a frame from such a famous brand.
If they managed to acquire the molds, they probably also obtained the entire process for positioning the carbon patches—how much to use and where to place them (perhaps with lower quality materials, but still effective).
What really amazes me is the blatant way in which such an obvious copy is being advertised.
I will choose the raw finish in size 52.
Considerations:
The raw TAN TAN frame weighs 140 grams more than the original Specialized frame of the same size, and I actually like this.
What I don’t like is the fork, where the TAN TAN component is even 30 grams lighter than the Specialized one.
I would like to ask TAN TAN to confirm the weight.
As for the rest, I am not surprised at all that there is a parallel production of a frame from such a famous brand.
If they managed to acquire the molds, they probably also obtained the entire process for positioning the carbon patches—how much to use and where to place them (perhaps with lower quality materials, but still effective).
What really amazes me is the blatant way in which such an obvious copy is being advertised.
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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« on: January 10, 2025, 03:46:22 AM »
2. the compression ring
file the black plastic part, with very fine sandpaper.
be careful not to remove a millimeter at once, but I recommend trying.
lay a sheet of sandpaper on a table and file the entire surface at the same time. the support of the headset cap must remain uniform
file the black plastic part, with very fine sandpaper.
be careful not to remove a millimeter at once, but I recommend trying.
lay a sheet of sandpaper on a table and file the entire surface at the same time. the support of the headset cap must remain uniform
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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« on: January 10, 2025, 03:23:18 AM »
for the upper area it is sufficient to file it evenly and it is solved, the problem is the lower part
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