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 Has press fit come a long way ? I had a couple Super Six Evos in 2012 and 2014 and the BB sucked bad. They were fine new but needed attention after only a couple years. (creaking) Also - T47 has lots of tool interface on a road BB and even on wider a 86mm bb are fine if careful. Just don't use shit tools/BBs. The only drawback is they don't look that nice.
 Now that I think about it I am sure the bb on my C50 and Master are original and they are 20 years old LOL.

Pressfit is very good as long as the BB shell is made within the correct tolerances (dimensions, roundness, alignment) and the Shimano pressfit BB is a nice design. I think most problems in the past were due to poor manufacturing. Recent frames have tended to be better (and I'm sure this one would be within tolerance!). When it's done well you end up with a system that's stiff due to the bearing spacing, and lighter than T47.

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I didn't see the geometry chart but a decent 75-80mm BB drop would also be nice, given the likelihood for slightly larger tyres, and it's unlikely anyone would race crits on one of these.

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The ideal frame
- aero big fat bladed fork and aero headtube
- relaxed geometry like the bike peter posted. So regular people can run a long stem slammed and maintain aero position.
- round seatpost (aero seatpost saves 0 watts)
- 32c/35c tire clearance is fine
- Pressfit BB cause I like to use the Shimano bb
- ACR headset system would be convenient
+1 for pressfit BB86!
I think T47 is not ideal due to the very narrow tool interface and the potential to damage paint/BB area when fitting.
I would also like to see a steeper seat tube angle in larger sizes (74-75 degrees) and a zero offset seatpost option.

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