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I received mine a couple of days ago. 50mm depth asymmetric gravel rims, ratchet hubs, pillar wing spokes, brass nipples, drain holes, 1380g.
They arrived in perfect condition, complete with rim tape and valves installed and a spoke tension report. I could easily mount tubeless tyres (without any additional tape, compressor etc).

I requested the drain holes and I'm not sure it's a standard offering for them. The holes could be slightly cleaner but hopefully they don't cause any issues.

There was a small amount of grease under the end caps, and red grease on the freehub ratchet rings. On the rear hub the rotor lockring seemed to foul the NDS end cap slightly but the rotor still mounted ok.

After about 130km the freehub is getting slightly louder (it was almost silent to begin with). There was quite a lot of friction from the ratchet to start with, and it is still causing some chain slap when freewheeling over bumps or when I stop pedalling abruptly. I'm hoping this is something that improves as the ratchets wear in.

Overall I'm very happy so far and I wasn't expecting this level of quality for the price.

My only update after about 2000km is that the freehub is now a lot freer (no more dropped chains!) and a lot louder! Other than that they wheels have been trouble-free and I'm still very happy with them.

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I received mine a couple of days ago. 50mm depth asymmetric gravel rims, ratchet hubs, pillar wing spokes, brass nipples, drain holes, 1380g.
They arrived in perfect condition, complete with rim tape and valves installed and a spoke tension report. I could easily mount tubeless tyres (without any additional tape, compressor etc).

I requested the drain holes and I'm not sure it's a standard offering for them. The holes could be slightly cleaner but hopefully they don't cause any issues.

There was a small amount of grease under the end caps, and red grease on the freehub ratchet rings. On the rear hub the rotor lockring seemed to foul the NDS end cap slightly but the rotor still mounted ok.

After about 130km the freehub is getting slightly louder (it was almost silent to begin with). There was quite a lot of friction from the ratchet to start with, and it is still causing some chain slap when freewheeling over bumps or when I stop pedalling abruptly. I'm hoping this is something that improves as the ratchets wear in.

Overall I'm very happy so far and I wasn't expecting this level of quality for the price.

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My set have been completed and are getting sent out today. Very nice to get the photo updates as they have progressed!

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Looks great - looking forward to receiving mine!

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It was the opposite experience to me. It was easy to deal with them via WhatsApp and order on Aliexpress.
Glad to hear you had a positive experience. Have you received the wheels yet?

As I said, I'm comparing with lightbicycle where there is a very detailed configurator, compared to a WhatsApp conversation to agree specs followed by an order on AliExpress for a generic item that matches the agreed price (but not the specs). I'm not saying my experience was negative, just that this company seems to be fairly new at dealing with individual customers.

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I ordered a set of the GRL50C wheels with their standard hubs and Pillar wing spokes. To be honest it was not the easiest process to clarify requirements via Whatsapp and place the order on Aliexpress, but I'm comparing this with my experience of Lightbicycle who have a very slick operation. I am hoping that the end product is good quality and I'll give some feedback here when the wheels arrive.

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73deg seatpost is frustrating for those of us with short femurs! The frame looks great, but I need something steeper :(
Unfortunately it's even slacker for the 58! I'm not sure why frame makers do this... A tall rider ends up sitting way back over the rear wheel. Best I can hope for is an inline or forward offset seatpost, but that's not ideal.

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That would come down to seatpost itself (carbon layup, wall thickness), considering that circle is one of the stiffer shapes.

As for bottom bracket standard... Guys, please let BB86 rest in the trash bin where it rightfully belongs, nobody likes running tiny bearings with VASTLY superior DUB cranks.
Ok... But T47 85.5 doesn't do what you're hoping for then

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 Has press fit come a long way ? I had a couple Super Six Evos in 2012 and 2014 and the BB sucked bad. They were fine new but needed attention after only a couple years. (creaking) Also - T47 has lots of tool interface on a road BB and even on wider a 86mm bb are fine if careful. Just don't use shit tools/BBs. The only drawback is they don't look that nice.
 Now that I think about it I am sure the bb on my C50 and Master are original and they are 20 years old LOL.

Pressfit is very good as long as the BB shell is made within the correct tolerances (dimensions, roundness, alignment) and the Shimano pressfit BB is a nice design. I think most problems in the past were due to poor manufacturing. Recent frames have tended to be better (and I'm sure this one would be within tolerance!). When it's done well you end up with a system that's stiff due to the bearing spacing, and lighter than T47.

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I didn't see the geometry chart but a decent 75-80mm BB drop would also be nice, given the likelihood for slightly larger tyres, and it's unlikely anyone would race crits on one of these.

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The ideal frame
- aero big fat bladed fork and aero headtube
- relaxed geometry like the bike peter posted. So regular people can run a long stem slammed and maintain aero position.
- round seatpost (aero seatpost saves 0 watts)
- 32c/35c tire clearance is fine
- Pressfit BB cause I like to use the Shimano bb
- ACR headset system would be convenient
+1 for pressfit BB86!
I think T47 is not ideal due to the very narrow tool interface and the potential to damage paint/BB area when fitting.
I would also like to see a steeper seat tube angle in larger sizes (74-75 degrees) and a zero offset seatpost option.

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