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Did you guys use the supplied 24mm bottom bracket? Hows is it quality wise?

Still contemplating going DUB on this
I completely missed that the bike comes with a bottom bracket. I just ordered a Ztto BB and probably will use that one. My frame arrives later today.

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Did you ask for a specific color and did you also ask for a spare RD hanger? Whenever I get a big purchase item from Ali, I always video record the box opening in case something happened during shipping. If it was damaged on arrival, at least you'll have video proof damage was caused during transport. If no issues are found, just delete the video. Hopefully the frame arrives with no issue!  :)

I chose just glossy black so don't care if the paint isn't perfect. I did ask for a spare RD hanger and the other c-ring as mentioned before. At first it seemed like they didn't understand which c-ring I meant but after some photos I think they understood. I guess I'll just have to wait and see.

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I ordered from Surprised store following all of yours advice. They seem to have shipped the frame without sending me photos to verify first even though they said they would. Should I say something to leave even more paper trail if there's something wrong? It's already saved in the chat that they agree to send photos before shipping it and maybe that's enough? Thanks again everyone.

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Pretty much all frames come with a compression plug but it's usually a pretty short one. I personally didn't use the supplied one with any of my builds but bought a longer one on aliexpress. Gives the steerer tube a little more strength i would say. Not sure if it's really necessary but i feel safer riding it with a larger compression plug.

Yep that's the correct c ring. I comes with a compression plug but like the above poster, I purchased a 80/90mm one for extra security.

Thanks, you guys are the best!

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Ask them to send you the C ring from the integrated handlebar, and including the stock one hopefully one of them will fit your stem+bar combo.
Was this the c-ring you were sent afterwards that worked for you?

https://imgur.com/SUQuDhA

Also, I'm assuming the frame comes with a compression plug or do I need to get that separately?

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I'm wondering about how long brake hoses I need for my build. Anyone remember the length of their brake hoses? I'm thinking about size S or XS for reference.

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Site seems to not be letting me upload images (error 500).

Here's imgur versions of a picture with skinnier tires for the person who was curious.  30mm tires from the front, and an updated side view:




Looks fantastic! What color is that?

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This forum is great! All this information is highly appreciated.


I purchased mine from the Surprised Store and I am happy with the overall quality. Points to note:

- Paint job is good/acceptable but not perfect. There is paint overspray especially on the brake caliper mounts and bottom bracket. You can probably get away with building as is but ideally should face it or sand it back

- Supplied headset has a massive gap to the frame which is resolved if you fit their integrated handlebar as it comes with lower stack c ring. Otherwise you need to find yourself correct C ring to reduce the gap or shim to lift it.
I was thinking about going with the normal non integrated stem+bar. Do you know which c ring to get?

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If you want this bike primarily for bikepacking, then I recommend thinking about purchasing a 29er hardtail as your baseline.  I used my gravel bike for bikepacking several years ago and found that the bike just didn't handle all that well loaded up with 30 lbs of gear.   I had a custom Waltle TI slacker hardtail frame fabricated.  I used it several times for sections of the Divide trail.  (I love it for long distance 2 week tours when the bike and gear weighs in the 60+ range.)    Then I rode some bikepacking races/rides on my  gravel bike and the TI Waltle.  Then shifted to using my 29er Spcycle M05 carbon framed bike.   

My Spcycle lightweight carbon frame weighs about 1/2 a pound less than my carbon gravel frame.  I run either a 120mm suspension fork or rigid carbon 29er fork on it.   I found that with  2.0 to 2.2 low rolling resistance tires and the rigid fork, the bike handles great.  For bikepacking races/ride, I get the bike below 45 lbs total bike and gear weight. 

Attached is my Slacker TI fully loaded,  versus my Spcycle 29er hardtail loaded for 500+ mile bikepacking rides, plus the bike with suspension fork and without.
I did not consider this but this looks pretty promising! Suspension maintenance does scare me though, maybe it's just in my head?

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Always contact the seller first and through AliExpress messaging. Do not do any messaging outside of AliExpress, especially if issues arise. You'll need a paper trail if you need to open a dispute. Make sure to verify sizing, components and any additional parts you may need. Ask the Surprised Store for a spare RD hanger as well. They forgot to include mine, and shipped it out to me for $1 USD fee. Also ask for photos before shipment to verify everything is to your liking. On a side note, pick up a few spare T47 BBs (or buy a real good one) and a decent T47 BB tool. I use a 2-in-1 Bikehand BB tool that works for both T47 BBs and also for center lock disc rotor locks. Make sure to use a paper towel to tighten the BB to protect the paint and frame since it's internally threaded. I also swapped all my cage screws to titanium. There are 20 screw mount holes on this frame, those screw weights add up! Lol

Enjoy!  ;D
You're a lifesaver! Thank you!!!

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With everything AliExpress related, you need to do your due diligence, ask a lot of questions of the seller, verify all shipped components and get spares if necessary. Ask for photos before shipping and make sure you cover every detail.

This seller has a fork with no cage bolts and I'm not sure if the seat post is offered (27.2mm seat post are easy to come by). I'd ask the seller if they manufacturer this frame themselves or source the frame elsewhere. Though I'm seeing this design sold through many vendors, big and small. It's becoming the new go-to open mold it seems.

To the Surprised Store's credit, their paint work was excellent with attention to detail. Also my frame has been so rock solid, I'd almost be tempted to build another one out as an endurance or commuter bike.  :)
It's my first time ordering from Aliexpress so this is perfect information, thank you so much. I might just go with Surprised Store as it seems many of you have had a good experience and the difference in price was about $20 compared to the one above. Do I contact the seller before putting down an order or do I do that afterwards? Do you contact them through Aliexpress or other channels like WhatsApp?

Once again, thanks for all the help.

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https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256808187065421.html

This store seems to have the best deal right now at $299 USD + $95 USD shipping. I messaged them briefly and they seem responsive to any inquiries.

Though I bought mine from the Surprised Store and I have no complaints. The frame rides great!
Thanks, this is great! Do you think all frames are from the same factory or different factories using same mold? I'm wondering if buying from this seller instead of "Surprised Store" would have any difference in quality.

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Many here bought off "surprised store". I did as well and didn't have many surprises. From order to delivery was about 3 weeks for me.
Thank for the information. Are you happy with the quality? Do you know what type of molding they use?

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Hello,

I was looking for a "cheaper" and slack gravel frame for bikepacking and found the TanTan (Seraph) GR047 for $385:

https://www.seraphbikes.com/seraph-carbon-gravel-bike-frame-super-light-bicycle-cycle-xs-gr047-t1000-girl-frame-chameleon-bike-frame-cycle-p5731781.html

Looking around it seems that many brands are offering this frame. Price seems to be pretty similar across the brands. I can buy from Spcycle's Aliexpress store with this month's discounts for about €500 with shipping. I'd assume that TanTan would be about the same with shipping to Sweden.

Do you guys have any recommendations on who offers the best quality or if you know other frames that are also good for cheaper or same price?

Thanks in advance,
Peter

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Hi all,
How the hell do you adjust the saddle inclination on this seat tube when the saddle does not have the hole ?
I cannot strenghthen the anterior bolt.
This kind of seatpost is the same on TanTan and Taiwaneisen and identical to SL8.
Thanks!

Here's a video on how to do it on a real SL8. Not sure if you have the same bolts.



Maybe my link won't show up. Here's what to add after youtube dot com: /watch?v=Gr57XWk4FBY&t=592s

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