I'll look again when I get home, but I did not see either the USB-C port nor the open area to adjust the FD location that Trace Velo pointed out.

Oh I was just mentioning what I am anticipating from LTWOO, they sent me pictures of the groupset so I could see the FD has USB C etc

I got the last ERX listed on the LTWOO factory store for now. They said it is the V3, the FD has USB-C but the rear derauiler also has the magnetic charging. I asked a few times if the RD is infact V3 as well and they reassured me that it was.

I guess we shall see

Do we know for sure that the R088 is one piece EPS molded? Also, pardon my ignorance but is there a drawback to the way TanTan does it?

I asked SPCycle to clarify if it's one piece again, I'll report back when they answer.

There is nothing inherently wrong with how Tantan does it.  They do it the same way specialized does it on the tarmac

I am very tempted by this frame during the current Aliexpress sale. Been following this thread and the TanTan X68 with interest.

What is the primary difference between the 2 frames? Are they identical except this frame has UDH? TanTan also comes with handlebar. Are there any other differences at all? Is the build quality comparable? Thanks

This one has UDH and is supposedly EPS molded in one piece versus having the front and rear frames being bonded later

This one doesn't have the head tube "sniffer" that the X68 does.

You can get this one with a handlebar but you don't have to

V profiles are okay, but not like this, has to be curved

The one that I linked in the original post doesn't seem like a V?

Hey everyone while I was perusing the AliExpress anniversary sale I found this seller (who appears to be a good one). This Wheelset seems like a great deal with "modern" wide rims.

For the 45/50 Wheelset, with Pillar Wing 20 spokes, it supposedly comes in 1280 grams +/- 30 grams.

What do y'all think?
Long shot but has anyone bought from RCRW?

I just found this on AliExpress:
912,39€ | 700C SL 36T Ratchet Wave carbon Wheelset 3540/4045/4550mm deep 31mm wide Rim center lock 24Hole Hub Flat Spokes Gravel wheelset
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mNrAAYJ

Personally i prefer glossy but i think that's just personal preference. I'm not 100% sure but i could imagine that dust sticks to a matte surface a little easier and a glossy frame would be easier to clean. Not sure though. My Velobuild VB 268 is pearl white glossy. You can check it out i posted it in the VB 268 thread.

Regarding my R088: I did another ride today. 30 km with around 500 m of elevation. I felt really comfortable climbing. When descending the bike was really fast. My brother rode next to me on my gravel bike almost spinning out and i was just rolling there comfortably. I think the 50 mm wheels play a part in that. The route contains a very rough segment. The strava segment is called "Höllenritt" which literally translates to hellride. It's a -7% descent over the worst road imaginable. Lots of potholes and cracks and overall damaged pavement. If your bike can handle that it can handle literally anything else. And i gotta say the bike handled it really well. The frame and especially the fork seems to absorb a good portion of the bumps. It still feels rough obviously as it's a roadbike but i never had the feeling of losing control over the bike. Really happy with the ride feel overall.

Also managed to take a picture with the bike in the sun, making the carbon layup really stand out:

Are you in Europe?

Instead of acting as a moderator, please, buy a frame, mount components, ride and test it, post some photos and share your feedback.
The frame are the same, TanTan has just changed the headset, is it so difficult to understand ?

So it isn't the same then. This thread is specifically for "the same frame" from tantan/seraph.

There are other generic SL8 threads and as a bonus it won't confuse people.