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If I were to guess...sponsoring that women's conti team while also not exactly innovating on their primary sellers (wheels) has really put them in a bind. The competition especially for wheels has surpassed Winspace. And what was their response? Increase prices LoL. We basically have reached peak carbon spoked wheels for the time being.

Just like with the western brands Winspace was making huge profits coming out of the pandemic. But eventually they were stuck with large amounts of inventory they couldn't move, as the consumer moved on to other brands. You really don't hear much about them anymore like we did back in 2020-22.

Also Joe from China Cycling/Panda Podium has left the building, so marketing wise they are not up there anymore...

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: CSC Gravel Bike Wheels
« on: March 27, 2025, 04:49:14 AM »
Bought the same wheels, haven't ridden them, probably next week will.
First impression is good, no problem mounting the tyres either.

Bought them after a couple of posts with positive feedback on a Dutch cycling forum.

Although there is a difference in reviews between the wheels with their own CSCT31 hub and the D272 hubs. The latter is giving better reviews and less issues than the first.

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Geometry attached. Size 56cm would be the first mold available in April. Since we make this frameset with high standard as couple of big brands, you could tell the details when it is available, one piece mold, mixed of T1100, 40T, 30T Toray carbon fiber. latex molding etc. The price on this frameset with handlebar won't be that cheap as our previous frameset.  But would be cheaper than some other Chinese brands.

Everything still in the works, with this mould/frame Peter? Any updates maybe?

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Ah, that i agree with 100%, but it's not at all what you wrote or meant in your previous message :)
When i say aero matters, i'm not saying that only the frame matters, and you can ride upright, w 50cm bars, panniers on the sides of the fork, wearing a baggy open jacket and an afro the size of Jupiter. I'm saying, aero matters :)

Point taken :)

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Exact. Except 150g weight difference even up a 2h climb results in a rounding error. Your body weight will fluctuate more than that over such a climb.

1. wrong, literally by definition / mathematically.
2. wrong, i guess you dont do much riding.
3. wrong as proven even by GCN IRL, i think they did the same mountain pass with / without an extra bottle and couldn't see a difference. Or mathematically, you can input a gradient, 2 different weights, and see the watts difference required to get up. it system weight is 85kg vs 85.2kg, good luck finding a difference IRL.

You might be a troll given this is your first message, idk. If you really mean your message, truly, you're years behind the curve.

Sorry, not trying to troll here. And maybe I didn't explain myself at best, fair enough.
But what I'm trying to say is, aero gains are not only determined by the bike but also by the rider and the rider's position.
You can ride an aero bike, but if you can't maintain an aero position on it for a few hours, which I think most ordinary people can't, what's the point then?




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Sorry mate, just watch the latest Nero Show on the aero matter please.
I'm not repeating or agreeing fully on their opinion, in case of factory/brand claims. But honestly, aero just comes into play for speeds of at least 40k/h (the pro's speed).
For us ordinary mortals riding at 30k an hour, it does not make the impact you are suggesting.

Therefore a much bigger impact will be a lighter bike for many cyclists.

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