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29er / Re: HongFu FM138
« on: February 27, 2025, 06:59:45 AM »
Hi All ;)
I am considering this frame but have a couple of questions.
Does the rear triangle move free without tension if the rear suspension is not installed.
I was also thinking about the TanTan Fm121 but some of the customers claim that there is too much tension on the seat stay as there is such a difference in radius of the seat stay vs the swing arm (see in the picture).
Is this the same with this frame or would anyone of you be so helpful and send me a picture like this to show if the rear triangle connects to the swingarm without tension.
Picture is taken out of the fm 121 thread.
Thanks in advance

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29er / Re: TanTan - Seraph FM121 XC 120mm Full Suspension 2024 model
« on: February 05, 2025, 11:08:35 AM »
I don't have a fox shock but a SideLuxe Ultimate and used this hardware.
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256804399765685.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.27.4ba61802JmbIqh&gatewayAdapt=glo2usa
As stated before the inner diameter of this hardware kit is 8mm and the bolt is 7.6mm.

Ah ok thank you.
And which length 35?

I also meant which Mountin Kit for the sid Lux because you also Need one so the Suspension does Not move left or Right
Best regards

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29er / Re: TanTan - Seraph FM121 XC 120mm Full Suspension 2024 model
« on: February 04, 2025, 03:45:10 PM »
Ok thanks a Lot for your response and i am looking forward to more testing Reviews of you.
Did you find it hard to mount the rear Suspension ? And which mountin Kits of Fox Are you using?
Best regards

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29er / Re: TanTan - Seraph FM121 XC 120mm Full Suspension 2024 model
« on: February 04, 2025, 01:40:11 PM »
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the clearance issue solved...

my fault, when tightening the steering cap, I didn't realize that it was already hitting the fork bar, I added another spacer and problem solved


one question, the suspension system of this model, is it with flex in the stays right? because in a vacuum without a shock absorber if I tried to move the rod forward it was very very hard almost impossible to push with my hand.

Thanks guys for the help

Thats exactly what i meant in my previous post!
So that the swingarm seems to Go in a different direction than the rear triangle which causes the seatstays to flex enormously ( Must be around 4-6cm according to the Frame geometry ) Normally Even with flexstays the rear triangle should move quite free without a Suspension but in this case it seems that it doesn‘t. This also causes a Lots of tension in the bearings!
And in the worst scenario the Seat stay could brake.

Please let me know your riding Feedback
Best regards

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29er / Re: TanTan - Seraph FM121 XC 120mm Full Suspension 2024 model
« on: January 28, 2025, 07:32:51 AM »
Hi all,
I’ve been looking at the Tantan FM121 as a potential frame for my next build. It looks good and seems to check a lot of boxes for a full-suspension setup. However, after taking a closer look at the design, I can’t help but notice something about the rear triangle that raises some concerns about its durability and functionality.

Does the Geometry Add Too Much Stress?
From what I can see, the seat stays look relatively short, while the swingarm appears longer than expected, with a flatter overall angle. This design could cause the swingarm to travel in a larger radius than the rear triangle, which might not align well with the suspension’s intended motion. Can anyone who has this frame test if you disassemble the swingarm and the rear triangle if they move the same radius.

This mismatch could lead to some flex and stress in the rear triangle. If the swingarm is forced to move differently than the linkage was designed for, it could create excessive tension and strain on the rear end of the frame.

Potential for Restricted Movement
Another point I’m concerned about is how this might affect the frame’s ability to move freely. With the geometry as it appears, the rear triangle might be under constant stress, making it harder for the suspension to pivot smoothly. Did anyone of you check if you can move the rear triangle freely if the Frame is assembled without a rear suspension because it should move without any resistance to the whole 120mm.

This could result in:

Stiff or restricted movement at the pivot points.
Reduced suspension performance, especially on technical terrain.
Long-Term Durability Questions
What worries me most is the possibility of long-term wear and tear, because if the rear triangle is under permanent tension the frame is more likely to crack.
Has Anyone Experienced This?

For those who already own the FM121, I’d love to hear your thoughts. Does the rear triangle’s geometry hold up well in practice, or have you noticed any issues with flex, stiffness, or wear? Does the rear triangle move smoothly, or does it feel tensioned?

I’m still considering this frame, but these potential concerns have me hesitating. If you’ve built or ridden the FM121, please share your experiences .
Thanks in advance






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