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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« on: May 08, 2025, 08:57:33 AM »
Quote from: glepore on May 08, 2025, 06:49:21 AM
Thanks. Confirms my suspicions. Lots of folks upthread were claiming the tantan frame wasn't from whatever source the others were, given that "it has a different headset size". Now we know it doesn't.
Mine came built so I didn't want to pull the hoses to change the bearing...just added external grease. I avoid the rain as much as possible, not an option for Sander I suppose.

As I said some months ago, I am sure that Tan Tan and Taiwan Eisen are the same frames.
You have been derailled by a wrong headset size reported from Tan Tan (52) vs Taiwan Eisen and original (49,5) and assuming that Tan Tan is a good seller while others are just "counterfeit producer".
Tan Tan and Taiwan Eisen are not producing this frame, they are simply buying from the same factory.

Whoever is the producer, the dynamic qualities of the frame are very good, the quality of the finiture is sufficient.
The only thing I am a bit worried after 1.000Km is the solidity of the fork: it is around 330gr uncut and it is lighter than the SL8 original..

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: SL8 Replica Build
« on: May 03, 2025, 02:28:58 PM »
Naked carbon

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: SL8 Replica Build
« on: May 03, 2025, 01:16:13 PM »
Quote from: BeR on May 03, 2025, 12:25:25 PM
I think that it is a "made in Taiwan" stickers.

You are right.
Btw, it is the same as mine - from Taiwaneise.
I think the producer is always the same

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: SL8 Replica Build
« on: May 03, 2025, 11:50:14 AM »
I see 4 bolts on the tube for bottle cages ? :-\

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« on: May 01, 2025, 02:26:02 PM »
Quote from: Sander2177 on May 01, 2025, 11:48:17 AM
This issue has actually been discussed at length on the Weight Weenies forum regarding the genuine SL8 as well. It looks like the bottom of the transition spacer isn’t perfectly flat — it dips at the front and ends up rubbing against the top tube.

You could try lightly sanding it down using fine sandpaper on a flat surface to level it out, or alternatively, order a set of genuine spacers and see if that resolves it.

This is exactly what I did with my frame, size 56 (but mine is from Taiwaneisen and you might think it is different…)

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« on: April 05, 2025, 09:47:24 AM »
Quote from: Sander2177 on April 04, 2025, 10:49:13 AM

From what I have been sent unfinished unpainted  frame weights are broadly similar within 5% which is generally the accepted tolerance.
So it’s just splitting hairs personally I don’t want a copy as light as my genuine frame which painted 54cm is 700grams
I’m hoping the Tan Tan I have ordered comes in at claimed weight which is there finished at around 836grams
I’m gonna do a sheet to predict weight but I am aiming for 6.8kgs predald and bottle cages.
Anyway Tawain Eisen Peter appears to have gone AWOL so I’m glad I ordered from TanTan!

Peter is replying to me..

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: SL8 Replica Build
« on: March 16, 2025, 03:18:05 PM »
Same here, I have found the corredt tyre pressure and it simply sails!
What about the fork stiffness?
Do you feel it a bit “soft” when you brake powerfully or are you ok with it ?

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: SL 8 clone
« on: March 05, 2025, 07:12:45 AM »
Thanks but this is the original manual instruction!  ;D

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: SL 8 clone
« on: March 05, 2025, 04:28:25 AM »
Great!
Have you applied the grease for carbon parts on the seatpost ?

I had to because during the first ride it went down despite the right strenght on the bolt.
Btw, on the seatpost - which seems identical to the original - it is written not apply grease it on but I had to..


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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: SL 8 clone
« on: March 02, 2025, 01:54:54 PM »
Hi
3rd ride with Taiwanesen frame, 260km overall.
The frame simply “sails”, from 30km/h you can check this very easily.
I have set the presure at 3.8psi front and 3.9 rear (internal rim width 23mm) and this makes the bike very comfortable.
I do not know how to objectively assess the fork and bottom bracket stiffness, apart from during some sprints. Any ideas ?

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: SL 8 clone
« on: February 22, 2025, 06:23:02 AM »
Quote from: BeR on February 22, 2025, 02:59:08 AM
Build is finished.
~7,1 kg.

Great build!
Might you pls share the headset bearings measures ?
Are they 49 or 52 ?

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« on: February 19, 2025, 04:17:42 PM »
Quote from: WWcyclist on February 19, 2025, 02:29:40 PM

I recommend putting this somewhere else, like I said before. This is not the same bike or frame.

Instead of acting as a moderator, please, buy a frame, mount components, ride and test it, post some photos and share your feedback.
The frame are the same, TanTan has just changed the headset, is it so difficult to understand ?

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: SL 8 clone
« on: February 18, 2025, 02:15:55 AM »
Quote from: planet_sammy on February 17, 2025, 02:39:58 AM
Has anyone ever ordered directly from taiwaneisen.cc or directly from their store via Ali?

I did. After some emails with Peter, he guided me through Aliexpress order, it was fine

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« on: February 15, 2025, 03:05:50 PM »
First decent workout with the fake SL8 from Taiwaneisen.
My weight is 65kg and FTP at 220watt. Wheels Yoeleo 50mm, tubeless 28mm, 4bar.
- the riding is “smooth”: after 35km/h you can easily observe the bike “sailing”, it keeps the speed with minimum power.
This is even more visible when you ride into a group of cyclists at 35km/h or more or when you follow the draft of a car passing you
- the frame is quite stiff expecially in the seatpost area: you can clearly feel in the back while the fork and the front part of the frame is quite comfortable
- I was worried about the stiffness of the fork as it weights even less than the original. I tested in a 3km discend and it is good

So far so good



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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« on: February 14, 2025, 01:59:37 PM »
Thank you!
Nothe saddle does not have a cut out.
I will check if I can find an allen key super short

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