10k, old screws and loctite - bomb proof

Is there an OEM manufacturer behind, or are they really producing the frames themselves?

Yoeleo h9, only drawback it’s expensive

An issue with my whoosh is that it requires recent hardware which I don’t have and don’t plan to get just for the sake of a free app.

I can run zwift on my old ass iPad without any issues, and that’s fine.

Having said that, I actually don’t use either anymore. I’m back to TrainerRoad plus Netflix and it’s the best app I’ve tried so far for performance gains.

I like the line of thoughts Serge - thank you.
I agree vb is not a fake, what I wanted to say was the heavily inspired geo and tube shapes that are close to a direct copy except the painting and minor details. Now looking at the 268, I spotted a couple of further differences vs the original… I like it

I have the Varia and it’s excellent. I literally never experienced any false positives.
The only issue I have with it is the battery life, it goes above 7h but that’s it.
For ultra distances the IGSport sounds great in terms of battery life. Unfortunately it’s not a worthy replacement of the garmin since it only increases the blink rate for 1 second when cars pass by. Duh. That’s one of the key features to be seen by cars. It’s as if they didn’t grasp the problem they’re trying to solve, maybe because they just focused on copying instead of solving cycling issues. Rant off .
In conclusion, I’ll probably rather buy a second Varia for ultradistances or a normal light than an imperfect copy.

Re Bibs, I’ve tried all kinds of Aliexpress stuff (the ones recommended in this thread).
To be honest, they’re all quite shite compared to my Pearl Izumi Pro bibs I got for USD 110.
Shite as in not even close in terms of riding comfort. Independent of the saddle, I can ride my bike much longer indoors and outdoors with the bibs mentioned above. And they’re not even top of the range, while the Ali ones certainly were.

I’d even go as far as saying Chinese bibs don’t make sense for athletes who invest a lot of time into training etc. The difference is night and day. Not necessarily in production quality, they may be close to on par with each other in some cases. But big time in terms of comfort, we’re talking a different level. So from my experience, I’d directly go with one pair of good bibs and be done.
It would be significantly cheaper.
I went down the more expensive road. First cheap skate, then buying the real thing.