If youre OK with more of a gamble there's the TFSA JH-35

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256808318926562.html?spm=a2g0o.tesla.0.0.33d7QQfEQQfEcL&afTraceInfo=1005008505241314__unknown__c_ppc_item_bridge_pc_main__4y6Igwk__1743124542952&gatewayAdapt=glo2usa4itemAdapt

I had back to back flats in the rear with my GoZone wheelset....... seemed to be a bum copy of the GP5K TT. I switched back to a regular GP5K and so far so good.

I went with Go-Zone.  30mm external, 24mm internal, 50mm depth.  I run 28 in front and 30 in the rear.  Now I’m sold on wider wheels.  Decent weight for the Go-Zones too.  I think I paid 440.00 shipped.

Same but I went for the carbon spoke versions. 45mm deep, just under 1300g, $700 I think? They measure 31mm wide and 28c GP5Ks measure 30mm mounted. At ~90kg I am running pressures in the mid 60 psi range.

So yea any 30-32mm wide wheelset should do it.

China tracking sucks

Just kind of have to hope for the best

Edit: I don't know, perhaps it's just my job, where experimental evidence is the only thing that matters, manifesting...

I had and lost a whole long response. My point was I spent most of my career in engineering and data analysis and have found that data alone isn't enough; you have to understand the data's completeness and relevance to the problem you are trying to solve. In terms of determining the quality/safety of a bike frame and its related company, to me the # of folks riding and reviewing them is prob the best data. Yes obviously there are going to be issues with every brand, but a more established + high volume brand usually handles them better and has a lower problem probability overall.

So I may be overly conservative, but I wouldnt bother with any fly by night pop up store/brand selling these replicas. Theres just not enough user/brand history to draw any meaningful conclusions on the quality or safety of the frame. And odds are you will be completely SOL if there are any issues. A lot of needless risk IMO. I just dont understand the replica thing. I mean I can understand an SLx clone from a big brand. But this shit here? Gambling with your life to make people think you bought a Factor just seems crazy to me.

I'm torn on this frame, especially after my rant about counterfeits earlier. As an owner of a genuine SL8, it's hard to justify buying this, even though the price and reviews have been very positive. A detailed review and comparison against the real deal by your good self! would definitely help me decide, as I'm considering a budget build to replace my Winspace SL2.0 frame and Hyper wheels, which aren't getting any love at the moment. I already have Ultegra Di2, and the new XM Carbon Speed T1100 wheels look amazing—I even emailed Peter about them. Now, I just need a frame, and I'm stuck choosing between an open-mold/copy, a branded Chinese frame, or waiting for Quick Pro Area to release the ER:ONE next month.  There is just so much choice t the moment its makes my head spin!

If I had to pick a "do it all" Chinese frameset right now it would be the SLC 3.0. Seems like it takes everything I like about the SL8, then drops the weight and runs a conventional round seatpost. I just finished a build but I wish I had gone with the SLC. I think it came out after I ordered my frame. Worth a look

Hi!

Does anyone know how long it takes to Velobuild to paint (1color) and ship a VR-177 frame?
Ordered mine more than 20 days ago and I am still waiting for it to be shipped

Regards

Thats a reasonable amount of time for a painted frame. It will be worth the wait