So i stubmled across this frame on Flea market (This platform is primarely used for selling used items, but also some taobao seller has more products in there, and it's a real gem sometimes). 

I think it's one of the best looking frame with right design decisions, but i coudn't find any manufacturer info, though i asked the seller, and will add if he send me additional info. something.

The weight of the frame is around 1100g and here all info i could find from the description:

[Full Carbon Road Bike Frame Set｜Disc Brake Thru-Axle｜Three Sizes Available｜Custom Paintwork]
One frame, three carbon components｜Raw finish without filler｜Ready to assemble upon arrival

Carbon Fiber Frame: 142*12mm thru-axle, disc brake, full internal cable routing (thru-axle rods included)

Carbon Fiber Fork: Compatible with 32C wheels, suitable for gravel and road use

Carbon Fiber Drop Handlebar + Seatpost: Bottle cage included

Frame Sizes: 450/480/510mm (suitable for heights 160–195cm)


Professional Specs｜Precise Fitment
✓ Headset: 52/52 standard spec (bearings not included)
✓ Bottom Bracket: T74 threaded (compatible with Shimano/SRAM cranksets)
✓ Expandability: Supports up to 32C tires, fully pre-routed for internal cables

Customization Service｜Outstanding Value
▪️ Raw frame price: ¥1480 (frame + fork + handlebar + seatpost)
▪️ +¥300 for basic single-color paint (30 colors available)
▪️ +¥500 for professional assembly service (requires you to send parts)

Shipped via SF Express

Free gifts: Thru-axle rods, bottle cage

Raw Frame Finish Info: Includes mold lines / minor carbon texture (see real photos)
Important Notes for Buyers: Recommended for users with experience assembling carbon bikes. CAD frame geometry diagram available. Please confirm size before ordering!

Link to the product: https://m.tb.cn/h.6iZypKA?tk=nkwfVbr2dzm

The main part is cost, though they doesn't include BB, headset bearings, probably saddle clamp and few other things, it cost just 200$

Cannibalizing this bike for the sake of Dura Ace seems like a good motivation. Planet Xs have been bought quite often for this exact reason

My thoughts exactly, it's like you are buying Dura Ace and getting free frame, wheelset, 3d printed saddle and other stuff, you can sell them and give back some of your money

Hey there,

Just wanted to point out your attention to the new bike that Sava released, the whole bike costs as a groupset (about 2600$).

• It's full Dura Ace, no mix with cheap components
  
• Carbon wheels (thou sales team doesn't know what spokes they use, weight and other)
  
• Weight is 7.32kg
  
• Terrible Chinese paint job included
  

What do you think?

https://e.tb.cn/h.TtZ6QzAqd1CQOor?tk=0dkoeju3OTk

Hey there,

I’ve noticed a growing trend where Chinese manufacturers are using radial lacing on the disc brake side, which is generally considered a no-go for many wheel builders and is prohibited by Shimano’s manual. Is this practice normal for carbon spokes? Is it safe, and have there been any reported issues with it? Even Winspace includes this design in their high-tier wheels.

Scott Foil and TanTan x38, even though by using it i noticed that there are more differences than similarities

I'm interested. While I don't love the fork, it's nice to finally see some new designs. The SL7 one-bike-to-rule trend is slowly fading and people want aero again. Would make for some interesting YouTube content if they can figure out their western world distribution.

-Stiff
-Comfortable
-Affordable

Pick two, but you can't have all three

I think they mostly make it for China, haven't seen any abroad dealers, but it's not.a problem since there are many forwarder companies who can send you the bike.
It's already available on taobao:https://m.tb.cn/h.57hgVjR?tk=vhC8WX3fQ3w

BTW, I  felt in love with this chameleon color, seems to resemble Foil RC20:

Thank you. That helps a lot. I have a 31mm wide wheelset on order that I have high hopes for and I wanted to make sure it fits the frame.
My frame has not been shipped yet. LTWOO er9 is currently sold out in the official LTWOO store. I don’t really want to order anywhere else.

BTW, TanTan claimed on instagram that they tested this frame with 32c tyres .