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Well boys after my long wait it looks like I may have messed up. This older body may not be made for race geometry. After putting about 200km or less on my F-C tier 3 Factor I've dealt with neck and back pain issues.

I guess going from endurance geometry to this was more than I bargained for. I thought I'd let people in this thread know I'll be posting it in classifieds and I'm super down as it rides like it just wants to go fast. Would come with a $400 BBinfinite BB already installed, the missing OEM factor silicone seatpost cover, real Black Inc computer mount, Factor bar ends and tape if I can salvage it. Both 0 and +25 seatposts were ordered with it.

Snow White with black lettering size 54 fork has been cut to maximum spacer height no slamming, shipped from Canada.

You can DM me too if someone wants to bypass the long wait times and guarantee they get a good inspected F-C top end copy.

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Well boys after my long wait it looks like I may have messed up. This older body may not be made for race geometry. After putting about 200km or less on my F-C tier 3 Factor I've dealt with neck and back pain issues.

I guess going from endurance geometry to this was more than I bargained for. I thought I'd let people in this thread know I'll be posting it in classifieds and I'm super down as it rides like it just wants to go fast. Would come with a $400 BBinfinite BB already installed, the missing OEM factor silicone seatpost cover, real Black Inc computer mount, Factor bar ends and tape if I can salvage it. Both 0 and +25 seatposts were ordered with it.

Snow White with black lettering size 54 shipped from Canada.

You can DM me too if someone wants to bypass the long wait times and guarantee they get a good inspected F-C top end copy.

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Any opinions from those who have integrated handlebars like those on the X68 that have a fixed angle? Is it not too limiting? Obviously it comes down to how the rest of the bike fits as well and so I'm guessing opinions are mixed.

Also curious about this or if anyone knows some integrated bar/stem setups without the huge drops like -10 degrees etc. Im running black Inc ones with -6 degree which is a big change going from a +6.

But yes thats the limiting factor of the integrated bar/stem, you're set in that ecosystem with no tweaking.

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Replica Factor Ostro VAM
« on: February 25, 2025, 05:48:11 PM »
I'll just paste the info:

Description
Report Item

OSTRO

1. Normal strength weight/2, superhard+lighter/3, top-level competition version

Corresponding price: 4000 5000 6500 RMB in three versions

The models (regular/high version) that are currently being made in domestic shelves are relatively good

There are three versions of OSTRO 49 size and weight comparison

Low version: 1070g (domestic 700) geometric non l: l

(Not recommended) (Poor painting level, geometric accessories are not 1:1, customer feedback is not good, not recommended to start)

Normal version: 925 grams (imported 700+imported T700 l: l

(High cost-effectiveness) Moderate painting, high cost-effectiveness, and normal delivery time

Maximum version: 825 grams (30T+imported 800) with almost the same factory strength. l: L (competition, comfort)

Ultra light (with good oil filling and weight)

(Weight after fine soil filling, frame tolerance of plus or minus 10 grams)

⬇️

(Paint coating may have different weights according to different colors)

UD dew carbon+30-40 grams

Color gas:+50-60 grams

After refinement, weight:


https://www.aliexpress.com/store/1102991493?spm=a2g0o.detail.0.0.539cufBBufBBBr


It's about $1000 vs $1330CAD for the lower tier vs top tier. Maybe cheaper, I'm only familiar with the Tier 3.


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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Replica Factor Ostro VAM
« on: February 25, 2025, 01:43:30 PM »
I found four frames (red-black, heart of the ocean, DUKE, white pearl) on aliexpress, they're all around 800 Euros for the heavier version or 1000 euros for the lighter one. Dont know about the other colour options, but i would guess that they would be prised similarly.

Don't think there is an extra charge for paint jobs you just pick what colorway you want then pick if you want the high mod version or the cheap one.

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Replica Factor Ostro VAM
« on: February 25, 2025, 01:06:40 PM »
Any idea on prices of their painting of the bikes?

I'm pretty confident that's the same person as F-C now after seeing the Chinarello's as well. Painting is usually included and you just pick the tier 1/2/3.

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Replica Factor Ostro VAM
« on: February 23, 2025, 12:36:01 AM »
You should complain to the seller, either of the bars, or the frame. You can use a vernier caliper (it's cheap) to figure out which of the steerer & stem is the wrong size. Or use another stem. If stem B fits, then stem A is the problem, and if neither fits, then steerer is the problem.
You should complain, but sandpaper is the answer. ideally you'd find some decent diameter rod, wrap sandpaper around it, and sand down (i assume it's the stem that's too tight). You did undo the stem bolts, yeah? :)
i wouldnt be afraid of sanding that, because if you were able to fit 10 or 15mm, it means you really dont have much material to remove. Do wear a (good) mask, or do it outside, and / or do wet sanding, as that dust is apparently truly, truly bad for your lungs (when i cut steerers I use a water spray bottle so the dust doesnt fly off, then i wipe the black mud off the floor).
If it's the steerer that's out of spec, i'd be less happy, because it raises more questions, given how critical that part of the bike is.

I think from past posts its the Black Inc. bars themselves not the steerer tube. I forgot to check mine with my digital calipers but again, mechanic made zero mention and I could slide my bars on no problem with a bit of force.

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Replica Factor Ostro VAM
« on: February 22, 2025, 07:51:22 PM »
I had a pair of the Black Inc rep handlebars from aliexpress (not sure if they would be exact same as the ones that ship with the frameset), they looked good, shallow aero section which is comfy in the tops, very light and yes a little flexy but to be honest, I think a bit of flex in the bars/stem is ideal. I now have Enve SES bars that came on my new TCR and they are very stiff! I miss the give.

Yeah someone made them sound like they're noodles I think it might be in this thread but seem fine to me. Also endoscoped the interior to look for any issues. Took it out for a quick ride even though its freezing just a quick 45mins but compared to my 2019 Time Fluidity I now understand what people mean when they say "The bike just wants to go". Feels great, feels fast, and didn't explode on me so far so good.

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Replica Factor Ostro VAM
« on: February 22, 2025, 06:51:45 PM »
Hey jerozilla.  Regarding the bars, I did try to slip them onto the steerer tube but found that I had to use a lot of force, either because the clamp is too small or the steerer tube is slightly oversized.  I only got about 10-15mm before giving up. (I was just playing around anyway.)

I'll investigate further but has anyone else seen this?  What's the recommended fix?

And regarding rotor size: are you running a 160 or 140 on the rear?  I'm assuming 160 on the front.

Thanks

Correct 160 front 140 rear that came with my groupset. I saw someone say they had sand a tiny but of the interior of the handlebar but other than that no issues. I definitely flexed on them and I'm not a small person to see if I needed to swap them for something else.

Few things I would not skimp on are like Patlien said, wheel set, handlebars/contact points.

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How many no brand frames have you owned and used? None

Which supplier did you buy from? None

How did you choose the supplier? None but what due diligence can you carry out really from reading online reviews None as they are merely opinion based with no real  facts

What are the conditions of the workers in the factories that produce for specialized? well i would like to think and an educated  guess are the conditions are what you would expect from a brand like specialized as you have to remember reputation is everything.


So answer these questions for me yourself?


Most counterfeit  goods bought are generally in tandem with organised crime its generally a given in some cases but obviously not all

Specialized literally has workers striking saying they weren't paid/worked in horrible conditions.

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Replica Factor Ostro VAM
« on: February 21, 2025, 08:50:12 PM »
Hey Team.

Update on my Ostro frameset as purchased from F-C:
Last Saturday morning, I took one last desperate look at my tracking info only to discover that my frameset had been handed off to US Customs in L.A. California just after midnight early that same day.
On Thursday, I picked the frame up from the local USPS office.  I thought they might ask for tariff $$$, but they didn't.  The box was somewhat battered from 76 days in transit, but the contents seem to have survived the trip.  The quality is what we've come to expect from F-C.  The BB facing seems fine while the caliper mounts aren't pretty but I think they're workable.  The quality of the bar/stem is o.k. - definitely not as good as the frame.  In particular, I asked for 380/100 and they are marked as such, but I don't really see how they measures out as 380/100.  Still, the bars will work for now at least.

Anyway, I wanted to update this thread.  In the end, I got my F-C frame after approximately 90 days, from order to delivery.  F-C certainly has areas to improve their customer service, and I think Aliexpress is equally to blame.  The shipping is overpriced for absolute sh!t quality.  I've never had a worse shipping experience, and I've purchased a lot of rare/odd auto and bike parts over the years.

I'll post pics of my build as it comes along.  I won't be rushing through it and will likely need to ask some [dumb] questions.

Cheers

Glad your frame actually showed up. I didn't see any issues with the handlebars right down to the matching v1 off color screws to match. Would be nice to see some photos of your 90 day adventure, at that point I think I woulda got a refund and if it showed up it showed up.

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Replica Factor Ostro VAM
« on: February 16, 2025, 06:17:00 PM »
Thought I would throw this out there for anyone purchasing via F-C:

Tips:

They do not include the silicone seat post cover that sits at the bottom and in mine and the other user (Oralmaster?) opinion the 20mm transition head piece is kind of ass so you should order those parts. Anjoy cycling seems to have them, they even have the official Factor bar tape if you wanna go all the way. I am using F-C's spacers though.

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First decent workout with the fake SL8 from Taiwaneisen.
My weight is 65kg and FTP at 220watt. Wheels Yoeleo 50mm, tubeless 28mm, 4bar.
- the riding is “smooth”: after 35km/h you can easily observe the bike “sailing”, it keeps the speed with minimum power.
This is even more visible when you ride into a group of cyclists at 35km/h or more or when you follow the draft of a car passing you
- the frame is quite stiff expecially in the seatpost area: you can clearly feel in the back while the fork and the front part of the frame is quite comfortable
- I was worried about the stiffness of the fork as it weights even less than the original. I tested in a 3km discend and it is good

So far so good

5/5 still alive

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Replica Factor Ostro VAM
« on: February 14, 2025, 04:45:00 PM »
received the same ones a month ago so im wondering if this is the showpiece frame and quality normally is below this -- im still trying to figure out how the general quality of this store's stock is ... they sell quite a few replica frames but i have not found definitive / first hand reviews in terms of quality

I would assume a store that pumps out every single top frame on the market is not going to be doing A1 quality consistently tbh. Someone else can chime in but the only differences I see from the photos are the checkered pattern weave that is on F-C's vs the standard looking carbon weave I see on Taiwan Esen's.

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Replica Factor Ostro VAM
« on: February 13, 2025, 07:00:47 PM »
My long teng 268 ticks all these boxes. And it's officially very fast, says me.

Honestly with anything I would listen to Serge here, never get the first iterations of something. I know everyone wants the "sexy" new v2 Ostro but it's the v1 that has been battle tested and proven by multiple purchasers.

Right now all we have is photos of a bare v2 with a fake Darimo bar and no reviews that needs a 60 day lead time. If anything if you want the Faketor get a v1 they are plenty sexy and you know what you are getting. Also agreed on the side note Darimo stuff is expensive for a reason....it's already extremely light. I would *never* buy faux Darimo parts. Save your thousands on the frame and splurge on the other parts if you want that type of thing....

Just my 2 cents.

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